R1a-M458-L1029*

[Dibran]

Hi all,

So I finally received my full genomes file. I haven't been able to reach Michal. However, the admins at Albanian Bloodlines were able to look over my interpretation file. I am positive for L1029 but do not share any of the downstream SNPs on Yfull. So I am predicted to fall under L1029*. TMRCA seems to be 2000ybp, if I am reading correctly. I may or may not share a SNP with the German or Norwegian sample. I will have to wait until I receive my BAM file monday, to upload to Yfull to see exactly how it splits. I have 26 unique SNPs. Only one of which I share with 2 kits on FullGenomes. Idk their country of origin, but TMCA between us was 2,340 years(common ancestor approximately 340 BC).

I know L1029 is considered typically Slavic. But the Slavic samples seem to belong more downstream under L1029. If the TMRCA is 2000ypb. How could it have arrived in Albania?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1029/

[CabOOM]

Very interesting.

[Dibran]

Very interesting.

Yea, it is. It seems to be the older variety of L1029.

[CabOOM]

Yea, it is. It seems to be the older variety of L1029.

It just adds more probabilities.

In situations like this, it might be too early to make solid predictions.

[Dibran]

It just adds more probabilities.

In situations like this, it might be too early to make solid predictions.

Perhaps. I also have no close matches on FullGenomes either. However, the 2 closest ones were the ones I shared in OP with 350BC TMRCA. We shared one(FGC72553+) SNP out of 26 unique. The general TMRCA is 2000ybp.
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[Dibran]

It just adds more probabilities.

In situations like this, it might be too early to make solid predictions.

The oldest sample seems to be from Cagliari, in Sardinia.

[Kelmendasi]

Congrats, interesting results. Seems like you really do have a unique haplo

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Congrats bro, keep us updated for new infos about your clade.

[Kelmendasi]

A TMRCA of 2,000 puts it around the year 18AD which is during the Roman era. The TMRCA probably lived around NE Europe or Central Europe so the populations which could be candidates are the Balts, Slavs, Sarmatians, Macromanni etc as they lived there during this time. Thing is that I’m not sure if there were any migrations from those regions into the Balkans at that time

[Dibran]

Congrats, interesting results. Seems like you really do have a unique haplo

Congrats bro, keep us updated for new infos about your clade.

Yea. Its pretty interesting. Seems the oldest sample is popping up in Sardinia(per yfull). The only way it got there is either with Vandals, Goths and or Byzantines. Unless it was a later migration from Italy of a assimilated Greek/Arberesh that came from the mainland(via assimilated Avars/Slavs). Most of the Slavic samples are popping up further downstream with TMRCAs that seem to line up with the great migration. The TMRCA here seems to be 2000ypb. Which is much earlier. Just looking at a timeline of the region, I see the Goths has some incursions in Late BC early AD period. One of my distant matches on the file was a Cirkas(seems like northern kavkaz). But he wasnt the closest. The closest had TMRCA of 2350ypb. Around 350BC. Doesnt explain the Norwegian and German samples though. lol