What do you feel is the minimum percentage for Pride in heritage?

**Peterski** · 01-13-2018, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by El Litvino

Catholic areas like Posen and Pomerelia resisted Germanization much better.

Catholic Kashubians for example voted for Polish nationalists in every single Reichstag election:
(so I find it ridiculous when some people try to separate Kashubian nationality from Polish)

https://s3.postimg.org/ppmohebjn/Rei..._Elections.png

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 01-13-2018, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by El Litvino

I'm wasn't really talking about Posen.

Rather about areas such as eastern Pommern (Stolp, Lauenburg, Rummelsburg, Bütow), north-east Middle Silesia (Mittelschlesien) and Masuria. Those areas had a Polish-speaking population as of 1800, but it was mostly Lutheran.

Catholic areas like Posen and Pomerelia resisted Germanization much better.

The ethnically Polish areas should have gone to Poland, the ethnically German areas to Germany

**Magnolia** · 01-13-2018, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS

Ethnicity and race is destiny more or less. For instance, the amount of blacks that have what it takes to be rocket scientists is probably the same amount as Vietnamese who are tall enough and have enough skill to play in the NBA. The French are good at Art and the Germans engineering.Not all groups are equally good at all things. East Asians will continue to win Olympic diving events, and runners of West African ancestry will continue to win the 100-meter dash. Similarly, nobody will ever be able to devise a test of knowledge or understanding on which groups with different population-genetic histories all record identical statistical profiles. You can have meritocracy, or you can have equality of outcomes by ancestry-group, but you can’t have both. Which one do you want? It seems we have already made up our minds.

Yes, it is destiny for people who don't manage to exceed limits that are given by culture/society/even a social group they were born in. All "big people" were able to do it - if Tesla would cried in a pub he was born as a villager/a poor person/a Slav or tried to find his value in 5% of his Germanic blood (just an example, don't know if he had some Germanic ancestors) - he would ended like an alcoholic/villager/a poor person.... but he didn't think of these things at all, he had no limits. Easy. Most people don't manage this of course, most people are sheep.

Yes, is something like an international division of labour; There are many factors why is like that (eg. climate, natural sources, quality of historical rules, interests of national's "big" men/heroes/businessmen,... - it is not a result of everyone's efforts; yeah Aristotle was great but it doesn't mean all Greeks are Aristotles, no need to be proud of Aristotle's work). To be born as German doesn't mean to be born as a technical engineer... to be born as a German mean you can easily become a technical engineer if you have potential and interest to be... But many Germans don't have it. To be born to a successful society is an advantage, many things are easier, but that's all.
Everything else is up to you. Many Germans are losers of course, many Germans are dump, many Germans have mental issues... many Germans feel like they are nobody.

**~~TEUTORIGOS~~** · 01-13-2018, 04:38 AM

This is the average Ulster Scots result :

Irish (48.49%), British (23.64%), Europe West (12.11%), Scandinavia (6.19%), Iberian Peninsula (2.07%), Italy/Greece (1.24%), Eastern Europe (1.10%)

This is my Ulster Irish result :

52% Irish, Scottish, Welsh
37% British ( Anglo-Saxon)
6% Scandinavian
With the rest likely noise

So I am both more Celtic and more Anglo-Saxon than the invading Ulster Scots. How the hell am I supposed to identify ? It is a paradox.

**Peterski** · 01-13-2018, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

The ethnically Polish areas should have gone to Poland, the ethnically German areas to Germany

These were Polish territorial claims after WW1:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmowski%27s_Line

Map:

Spoiler!

But there was also a more multi-ethnic concept:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

**~~TEUTORIGOS~~** · 01-13-2018, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Magnolia

Yes, it is destiny for people who don't manage to exceed limits that are given by culture/society/even a social group they was born in. All "big people" were able to do it - if Tesla would cried in a pub he was born as a villager/a poor person/a Slav or tried to find his value in 5% person of his Germanic blood (just an example, don't know if he had some Germanic ancestors) - he would ended like an alcoholic/villager/a poor person.... but he didn't think of these things at all, he had no limits. Easy. Most people don't manage this of course, most people are sheep.

Yes, is something like an international division of labour; There are many factors why is like that (eg. climate, natural sources, quality of historical rules, interests of national's "big" men/heroes/businessmen,... - it is not a result of everyone's efforts; yeah Aristotle was great but it doesn't mean all Greeks are Aristotles, no need to be proud of Aristotle's work). To be born as German doesn't mean to be born as a technical engineer... to be born as a German mean you can easily become a technical engineer if you have potential and interest to be... But many Germans doesn't have it. To be born to a successful society is an advantage, many things are easier, but that's all.
Everything else is up to you. Many Germans are losers of course, many Germans are dump, many Germans have mental issues... many Germans feel like they are nobody.

Yeah, so most 85 IQ American negroes can become rocket scientists they just need to break free of societal limitations etc... ? All they have to do is stop being sheep. I am not buying that bullshit.

**Peterski** · 01-13-2018, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS

How the hell am I supposed to identify ?

Murican: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ancestry ???

**Mingle** · 01-13-2018, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by El Litvino

Puerto Rican killer bees are racially African (and descended from African bees, without any local admixture), but behaviorally very different. They have evolved gentle behavior and lost their aggressiveness. The same applies to modern Swedes who are racially the same as Vikings but in terms of genes determining behavior they have changed since the Viking Age.

There has been soft selection on cuck genes in Sweden over the past several generations (at least).

You are massively over-emphasizing on genetics. Sweden in the Middle Ages was nothing even remotely similar to modern day Sweden. The environment, development, etc. is completely different.

There is no such thing as "cuck genes" or anything related to that in epigenetics. In Sweden, people not wanting to offend others or bother others is a thing from before the immigration saga. It's part of their anti-social attitude which has to do with the environment they live in. In Viking Sweden, there weren't much resources, so in order to survive they had to raid neighboring lands. It was a necessity and something all people did to a degree.

As for Sweden having different views on immigration than other Nordic countries, that has to do with Sweden having a history of migration from neighboring regions (they may have thought it would be somewhat similar with MENAs and Sub-Saharans but it wasn't) so they were somewhat used to it. Sweden was historically the greatest power in that region and is also more industrial today as a result. Finland also has a rough relationship with Russia that made it more wary of foreigners.

I've heard that the public opinion of Swedes is different to that of their politicians. The Swedish public is much more anti-immigration than their politicians are. Soon it will probably become a bit less progressive. I've also heard that there is a backlash against feminism there (and the rest of Scandinavia). It has a greater sex inequality gap than the US does in regards to how much money men and women make.

**Peterski** · 01-13-2018, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

You are massively over-emphasizing on genetics.

I know I was mainly joking. 3rd Law of Behavior Genetics says that a substantial portion of the variation in complex human behavioral traits is not accounted for by either the effects of genes or families:

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full...63721415580430

**Mingle** · 01-13-2018, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by El Litvino

These were Polish territorial claims after WW1:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmowski%27s_Line

Map:

Spoiler!

But there was also a more multi-ethnic concept:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

Poland didn't claim Konigsberg after WW1 but claimed all the regions that surround it?? Any idea why?

Would have been a nice gesture if the Old Prussians were still around