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[Senpai]

Does anyone know of maps of Europe with Siberian admixture?

[Peterski]

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Are you aware that they used Estonian Poles in this study?

The ones with Siberian admixture are Poles from Estonia.

Today I started 2 threads about Polish Livonia (Latvia + Estonia), because our new minister of finance (since 09.01.) is an ethnic Pole born in that region:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4905343

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4905358

[Peterski]

It is like using Estonian Swedes in a study about Sweden's DNA.

Or like using Latvian Germans in a study about Germany's DNA.

[Peterski]

but some of them scored as much as Estonians and Finns (around 3-7%).

Because these are ethnic Poles from Estonia. Parts of Latvia and Estonia were under Polish rule for over 200 years and Polish minority emerged there (from Polonized Baltic Germans, Polonized natives and Polish settlers).

[RN97]

Because these are ethnic Poles from Estonia. Parts of Latvia and Estonia were under Polish rule for over 200 years and Polish minority emerged there (from Polonized Baltic Germans, Polonized natives and Polish settlers).

Okay, I get the point, relax. Where are the samples of Poles from Poland in scientific genetic studies then? I know Poles and Eastern or "Centralwhatever" Europeans also have mong admixture. Balts and Poles often come up as close to zero percent mong on amateur calcs. That's just not true, you can tell that just by looking at them.

[Peterski]

Okay, I get the point, relax. Where are the samples of Poles from Poland in scientific genetic studies then?

But from which papers?

Behar 2013, "No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews", has 11 Poles from Estonia and 7 Poles from Poland. I checked Supplemental File 1 to see their origins.

Geographical coordinates for these 7 Poles are listed there as 52.9743978146, 19.6763955101 (which is in Mazovia), but according to Davidski, they are actually from Warsaw (also in Mazovia).

These 7 Poles from Behar 2013 are on GEDmatch Genesis. I checked their GEDmatch results and compared them with my regional non-scientific samples. And they plot with other Mazovians.

Harvard also has Poles from Poznan (15) and Lublin (8) in their dataset, but these genomes are not publicly available:

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2016...s-dataset.html

[Ülev]

Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various jabs at the "Globe Theory".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

[RN97]

But from which papers?

Behar 2013, "No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews", has 11 Poles from Estonia and 7 Poles from Poland. I checked Supplemental File 1 to see their origins.

Geographical coordinates for these 7 Poles are listed there as 52.9743978146, 19.6763955101 (which is in Mazovia), but according to Davidski, they are actually from Warsaw (also in Mazovia).

These 7 Poles from Behar 2013 are on GEDmatch Genesis. I checked their GEDmatch results and compared them with my regional non-scientific samples. And they plot with other Mazovians.

Harvard also has Poles from Poznan (15) and Lublin (8) in their dataset, but these genomes are not publicly available:

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2016...s-dataset.html

From whatever paper you want. I don't want to GEDmatch davdski BS. He is the reason why a lot of NE Europeans don't score any mong, always integrating it into some other Euro component; baltic etc. Where are professional genetic studies (from whoever, whenever) that shows Poles score close to 0% mongoloid admixture?

[Peterski]

Kuschniarevich 2015 study, "Genetic Heritage of Balto-Slavs...", also has only Poles from Mazovia. Check the location of the red triangle (autosomal DNA) in the map from Fig 1. The Balto-Slavic populations analyzed in this study:



So this 2015 study used only Mazovians and Estonian Poles.

[Peterski]

I don't want to GEDmatch davdski BS.

Not all calcualtors on GEDmatch were made by Davidski, only these from the Eurogenes series. As for studies, there are no good studies about Poles because as you can see they are only using Mazovians (and Mazovians are outliers compared to all other Poles) or fringe groups like Estonian Poles.

I'm waiting for a study about Poland similar to those about Britain and Ireland, where they selected people with 4 grandparents born within 80 km of each other, put them on the map and checked what genetic clusters exist.