The American WASP ethnic group, and the virulent resentment thereof

[poiuytrewq0987]

That's what most mexicans say...

I understand you're trying to make yourself feel all important with the WASP myth but if you think any of non-WASPs care a great deal about you... we don't.

[The Journeyman]

If you were raised with any kind of breeding then you should be familiar with the term "noblesse obliges" (you speak french right?). If you happen to come from such a background, act accordingly and don't flaunt your wealth/status etc.

[Joe McCarthy]

Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood
Many of them are ardent pushers of multiculturalism, political correctness, and cultural Marxism as well as being strong supporters of Zionism, neoconservatism, and other destructive ideologies.

I'm unsure what definition we're using precisely, but white Protestants in the US (most of whom could be deemed WASP by some definitions) are the least likely to support the leftist causes you're speaking of here (which is reflected both in voting patterns in the general population, as well as among members of Congress), and the emphasis on opposition to Zionism and neo-conservatism is, in my view, misplaced. They are the hobby horse mostly of the Counterpunch left and the reactionary or neo-Nazi right.

In the case of the 1965 immigration reform, for example - easily the worst piece of legislation in American history - the three primary movers were an Irish-Catholic, another Irish-Catholic, and a guy of mixed Jewish and Catholic parentage. Indeed, more than can be said for Jews (who are much fewer in numbers), there are a whole host of social ills directly connected to the significant infusion of Roman Catholics into the US.

The WASP country-clubbers may have had some problems, and they helped bring these people in, but it hasn't been them, for the most part, that have taken a battering ram to American society.

[Savant]

What WASP myth? What is that? It's fine if you don't care about us, we don't really care about mexicans either, but we're appreciative of you cleaning our houses and doing our yard work... This of course merely begs the question, why do you keep coming and participating in the thread if you don't care? Seems as though you do care, envy and bitterness are a form of caring you know... I guess it's natural for Mexicans to be envious of and hateful towards someone like a WASP... That's why they keep invading our country after all...

I understand you're trying to make yourself feel all important with the WASP myth but if you think any of non-WASPs care a great deal about you... we don't.

[Savant]

I never made any mention of my own wealth or status, or lack thereof. Nice strawman though... Sorry that the mere imagery of status or wealth makes you hateful and envious though.

If you were raised with any kind of breeding then you should be familiar with the term "noblesse obliges" (you speak french right?). If you happen to come from such a background, act accordingly and don't flaunt your wealth/status etc.

[Eliades]

Tbh (no offense to any WASPS), but I quite happy I'm not a WASP. It seems like they're everywhere, and the WASPS weren't too cool to my Balkan and Eastern European ancestors when they first came to America. lol.

[Savant]

+1!!

And we DID in fact help them in out of humanitarian sentiment, and as an extension of good will. There are few people in these circles who will admit that the Lib Roman Catholic crowd had much more to do with this mess than most anyone else. They wanted to let their Southern Catholic brethren in to our evil protestant nation. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

I'm unsure what definition we're using precisely, but white Protestants in the US (most of whom could be deemed WASP by some definitions) are the least likely to support the leftist causes you're speaking of here (which is reflected both in voting patterns in the general population, as well as among members of Congress), and the emphasis on opposition to Zionism and neo-conservatism is, in my view, misplaced. They are the hobby horse mostly of the Counterpunch left and the reactionary or neo-Nazi right.

In the case of the 1965 immigration reform, for example - easily the worst piece of legislation in American history - the three primary movers were an Irish-Catholic, another Irish-Catholic, and a guy of mixed Jewish and Catholic parentage. Indeed, more than can be said for Jews (who are much fewer in numbers), there are a whole host of social ills directly connected to the significant infusion of Roman Catholics into the US.

The WASP country-clubbers may have had some problems, and they helped bring these people in, but it hasn't been them, for the most part, that have taken a battering ram to American society.

[Joe McCarthy]

+1!!

And we DID in fact help them in out of humanitarian sentiment, and as an extension of good will. There are few people in these circles who will admit that the Lib Roman Catholic crowd had much more to do with this mess than most anyone else. They wanted to let their Southern Catholic brethren in to our evil protestant nation. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

In ethnic and religious terms the main forces in opposition to things such as immigration restriction and eugenics were Roman Catholics, Jews, and liberal mainline Protestants as embodied in the National Council of Churches. The WASP bluebloods like Morgan and Rockefeller were supporters of eugenics, and the broad masses of white Protestants were on the right side of these issues. It's no surprise that the most noted eugenics sterilization law was in Tennessee, a bastion of Anglo Protestantism..

[Savant]

What's confusing to me is how letting droves of 3rd world hordes in could be considered positive "eugenics" ?

In ethnic and religious terms the main forces in opposition to things such as immigration restriction and eugenics were Roman Catholics, Jews, and liberal mainline Protestants as embodied in the National Council of Churches. The WASP bluebloods like Morgan and Rockefeller were supporters of eugenics, and the broad masses of white Protestants were on the right side of these issues. It's no surprise that the most noted eugenics sterilization law was in Tennessee, a bastion of Anglo Protestantism..

[Joe McCarthy]

What's confusing to me is how letting droves of 3rd world hordes in could be considered positive "eugenics" ?

I think that's just it. Irish-Catholics and Jews didn't believe in eugenics in the first place, and thus actively opposed national origins requirements that 'discriminated' in favor of Northern Europeans, most of whom were Protestants.

It's indicative (and telling) though of the power of Irish Catholics in American politics that even the pre-65 quota was stacked in favor of Ireland (along with Britain and Germany). No such quota provision existed for Jews or Israel, and FDR enforced the '24 immigration law in denying entry to Jewish refugees.

That should give us some idea of who the most powerful subversive power was.