Ethymology of the medieval Albanian ethnonym

[Trilecce]

I know, that’s why I said it probably developed from an exonym into an ethnonym

I dont think you understand the terms we are using. An exonym IS an ethnonym!
And a exonym can never develop into a endonym, they are opposites... Please clear your thoughts.

[Trilecce]

No, Albanians are Albanians, what do they have to do with the Romanian land? Same with Greeks. They are different people, with different culture.

YOU are a very very different people with different a very different culture. Only your language connects you to the roman world. In every other sense, you are a mixmash of huns, central and east europeans, who speak a roman language because you had a roman speaking church to teach you.

[Kelmendasi]

I dont think you understand the terms we are using. An exonym IS an ethnonym!
And a exonym can never develop into a endonym, they are opposites... Please clear your thoughts.

It can easily be developed into an ethnonym if the people who it denotes pick it up from that language and start using it as their own, it’s not that hard we already have a lot of Latin linguistic influence

[Kelmendasi]

Arbar... Dude, when you have settled from being freed of Eqrem Cabejs lies, then you will maybe laugh at these attempts of yours

I have never read anything that has to do with Cabej. Man it’s already a proven fact that Arbar is just rhotacized, even Elsie said this “Their traditional designation, based on a root *alban- and its rhotacized variants *arban-, *albar-, and *arbar-, appears from the eleventh century onwards in Byzantine chronicles (Albanoi, Arbanitai, Arbanites), and from the fourteenth century onwards in Latin and other Western documents (Albanenses, Arbanenses)." Albanian linguist Xhevat Lloshi also said the same

[Trilecce]

It can easily be developed into an ethnonym if the people who it denotes pick it up from that language and start using it as their own, it’s not that hard we already have a lot of Latin linguistic influence

First of all, an exonym is an ethnonym, wether the people it denotes picks it up or not. Just as ALBANIAN IS A ETHNONYM even though we have not picked it up. But thats not the question here, the question regards meaning of the ENDO-NYM Ar beresh. Claiming that its a transformed exonym is incredebly far-fetched since its meaning is perfectly clear to anyone who speaks albanian. Not only that, it corrsponds to both dialects with the same meaning. Ar banes in the north and ar beresh in the south. Its so elegant thats its almost a joke that no one even talks about it. Instead like midnless drones we refer to communist propagandist Eqrem Cabej, may he suck cocks in hell.

[Kelmendasi]

First of all, an exonym is an ethnonym, wether the people it denotes picks it up or not. Just as ALBANIAN IS A ETHNONYM even though we have not picked it up. But thats not the question here, the question regards meaning of the ENDO-NYM Ar beresh. Claiming that its a transformed exonym is incredebly far-fetched since its meaning is perfectly clear to anyone who speaks albanian. Not only that, it corrsponds to both dialects with the same meaning. Ar banes in the north and ar beresh in the south. Its so elegant thats its almost a joke that no one even talks about it. Instead like midnless drones we refer to communist propagandist Eqrem Cabej, may he suck cocks in hell.

Lol, I guess all those Albanologists and linguists were wrong apparently. As I said before, I have never read any of Çabej’s work

[Trilecce]

I have never read anything that has to do with Cabej. Man it’s already a proven fact that Arbar is just rhotacized, even Elsie said this “Their traditional designation, based on a root *alban- and its rhotacized variants *arban-, *albar-, and *arbar-, appears from the eleventh century onwards in Byzantine chronicles (Albanoi, Arbanitai, Arbanites), and from the fourteenth century onwards in Latin and other Western documents (Albanenses, Arbanenses)." Albanian linguist Xhevat Lloshi also said the same

No you have not read him, but you refere to his ideas, which is that our ethnonym is from the exo-nymic word albani. An ethnonym that we dont even use, and have never ever used. It has been an exo-nym to us from day one untill today.

[Trilecce]

Lol, I guess all those Albanologists and linguists were wrong apparently. As I said before, I have never read any of Çabej’s work

Yes, they are wrong. So are they who say that shqiptar come from shqiponje (another of Eqrem Cabejs lies btw)

[Kelmendasi]

No you have not read him, but you refere to his ideas, which is that our ethnonym is from the exo-nymic word albani. An ethnonym that we dont even use, and have never ever used. It has been an exo-nym to us from day one untill today.

Man believe what you want, we have already derailed this thread enough best if we stop

[Trilecce]

Man believe what you want, we have already derailed this thread enough best if we stop

We could ask to have it detached into its own, ill pm wrong and see what he can do. No need to stop the discussion.