Central Asians = Chinese East Asian looking nomads. Their Caucasoid haplogroups DNA are irrelevant

[ButlerKing]

Two simple reasons why it's useless for so many members to keep emphasizing on the West Eurasians ancestry/or Europoid DNA of Central Asian Turks.

REASON 1 Original Central Asians were Iranians, Sogdians, Scythians, Tocharians, Pamirs, Tajiks that means Turks migrated/invaded to Central Asia from what is today Mongolia/South Siberia. So in other words Central Asian Turks were East Asian nomadic migrants who colonized foreign lands. Like to Europeans in Australia, America today ect. No different to even most East Asian and Southeast Asians who absorbed lands of other races.

REASON 2 There are many indigenous East Asian and Southeast Asian ethnic group population that do not look anything like East Asians while Central Asians can look from half East Asian, predominant East Asian to pure East Asian physically. No different to any Chinese/Japanese/Mongolian/Korean/Siberian/Vietnamese/ and their half breeds.

Compare with the way Central Asian Turks look, these people are indigenous people who are nothing like modern day east Asian and Southeast Asian invaders


I consider Ainu from Japan Hokkaido ( a Japanese colonized land ) different racially to East Asians



I consider Taiwan aborigines from Taiwan ( a Chinese/Taiwanese colonized land ) different racially to East Asians



I consider Negritos of Thailand, Malaysia, Phillipines ( a Southeast Asian colonized lands ) different racially to East Asians



I consider Papuans of Indonesia's West Papuan ( a Indonesian colonized lands ) different racially to East Asians



I consider Rohingya of Western Burma ( a Burmese / Rakhine colonized land ) different racially to East Asians.



And for your info. I also consider the Tajiks, Pamiris as the true Central Asians and racially different from your East Asian Turks who colonized Central Asia. The same foes for the Uyghus originated from East Asia and colonized Tarim Basin ( in turn colonized by Chinese and renamed Xinjiang )

[ButlerKing]

I created this thread for the Turks and non-Turk members. For the past 5 years, they kept making these useless emphasizing on the percentage of Central Asian's Turks Y-DNA and mtDNA that are caucasod/west Eurasian haplogroup. Emphasizing on the less Mongoloid looking appearance which is so pointless and useless.

There's hundred millions of Black Africans with massive haplogroups DNA. Why don't you give a crap about that ? What about African Americans they have heavy percent of Caucasoid haplogroups too but why don't you talk about that more ?

Comments I've received in less than a months time

Karakalpak GEDmatch kit numbers. They are only 50-55% mongoloid.

Sorry but fuck your eyes then. They have clearly caucasian admixtures. Are you saying that these guys can pass in China, Korea, Japan etc?

Again anyone would prefer 50% NE Asian genes than 15-20% Indian.

yes, keyword 'mostly', he looks like an extreme mongoloid kazakh but i dont see him passing comfortably in any east asian country

You are associating round faced/alpinid/brachycephalic tendenicies with being solely mongoloid

Central Asians are Turanids not Mongoloids

Leto, even calculated the Karakalpak DNA wrong on the Gedmatch result, on average they are 55.98% (56%) Mongoloid on average so is more like 55-60%
Mustakatekin, thinks just because they won't pass in East Asians they aren't East Asians lookalike
Bori thinks 50% NE Asian genes is different from SE Asian genes, like it matters... I don't see anyone emphasizing how different West African DNA is from South African
Eggyolk thinks a extreme Mongoloid Kazakh that won't pass in east Asian country is a big deal ( what about seeing a Kazakh man with Russian women ? isn't that still Chinese look-alike man with a white women women ) He thinks I don't know a Mongoloid when I see one.
And last time I've checked East Africans are Somalids, Ethiopoids, Entreanoids but you don't see a Arab treating like a Caucasoid bother do you ?

There's Turanids... because Mongols massacre of millions innocent people in East Europe, Middle east, Central Asia and changed the demographic race. There's Turanids like Turks in Central Asia, Hazara in Middle east, Nogais in Europe because of of violent crimes. Than other Central Asians like the Uzbeks, Kazakhs did the same by enslaving millions, killing millions.

Original Oghuz Turks who migrated to Turkey were properly 33-69% Mongoloid with most of them being 55-60%.

[ButlerKing]

Kazakhs/Kyrgyz

Here are what Central Asian Turks Kazakhs/Kyrgyz look like. Who are 70% Mongoloid, 30% Caucasoid ( they could be 60-80% Mongoloid depending on the region )

Kazakhs

Kyrgyz

[Arcadefire]

lol your entire posting history consists of talking about mongoloid people. What is going on here bro?

[ButlerKing]

lol your entire posting history consists of talking about mongoloid people. What is going on here bro?

Well ask the Turks and other racist bigots. Haven't you noticed the numbers of classification threads on Central Asians ? their obsessiveness of trying to proven central Asians are more Caucasoid than they want us to think.

Why don't they emphasize on the Caucasoid ancestry of Black Africans. Why don't they don't talk about Gypsies West Eurasian DNA haplogroup ( which are 80-90% ).

I don't know why some of these fools think that the Caucasoid ancestry of Central Asian Turks matter so much. I've seen seen many half Chinese/ half Japanese / half Korean who look a 100 times more Caucasoid phenotypically than Central Asians but still they act as if Central Asians are Europoids with slant eyes.

[Sora]

You're boring everyone with your stupid threats, butthurt! Stop this threads! Also the fact is Caucasoids killed many of Mongoloids in the history. For example: Look at the Soviet history! It's full of genocides! Also Kazakh genocide is the one of them(1932-33). Your Caucasiod brothers killed million of (predominantly)mongoloid Kazakhs and made the rest slaves! Here is proof:

Another Soviet Genocide – Kazakhstan, 1932-1933 — Coming Back To Haunt Moscow – OpEd
June 1, 2016 Paul Goble 2 Comments
By Paul Goble



Today, the government and people of Kazakhstan commemorate the terror famine Stalin unleashed against the Kazakhs in 1932-33, an action that killed more than 1.5 million members of that nation and qualifies as a genocide because it transformed the ethnic mix of that republic, allowing ethnic Russians to be the dominant group until the 1980s.

Many across the former Soviet space and elsewhere are familiar with Stalin’s terror famine in Ukraine, a famine that also rose to the level of genocide and helped to power the recovery of Ukrainian independence and the integration of the Ukrainian nation; but far fewer know about its analogue in Kazakhstan and about the role of that tragedy for Kazakhs now.

But given the increasing protests in Kazakhstan and the appearance of ever more anti-Russian groups within the Kazakh population , the long-ago and half-forgotten genocide of the Kazakh people is attracting ever more attention among their modern counterparts; and it is incumbent on those beyond its borders to understand the continuing impact of this genocide too.

Saken Baikenov, a Kazakh blogger, begins his commentary on this event by quoting Russian analyst Dmitry Verkhoturov who has written that the terror famine “had an enormous influence on Kazakhs.” Indeed, “after this terrible year, the Kazakhs became another people, a MINORITY in Kazakhstan.” And that change continues to cast a shadow on the country today.

Indeed, Verkhoturov continues, “its remnant are a monument to all who died in the years of the Great Destruction. Too much was lost, too many people died who were not able to make their contribution.” All succeeding generations of Kazakhs have thus suffered as a result (facebook.com/saken.baikenov).

“The hunger in Kazakhstan in 1932-1933 was part of the all-union hunger arising as a result of the official policy of ‘the destruction of the kulaks as a class,’ collectivization, the incrase by the central powers of collections of good, and also the confiscation of livestock from the Kazakhs” – more than 90 percent of flocks were taken away or destroyed.



Population losses were almost as bad: 49 percent of the Kazakhs died or were killed and more than a quarter million more fled abroad to China or Afghanistan. (These are the so-called “oralmany,” many of whose descendants have returned to Kazakhstan in the last decade with their stories about this.)

The Kazakhs resisted both the drive to destroy their nomadic way of life and the plan to confine them to collective or state farms. More than 80,000 Kazakhs were involved in 372 risings during the anti-nomadic efforts and others fought the collectivization effort as best they could.

All this is the focus of exhibits, conferences and meetings in Kazakhstan this day and this week. But there is one new note that may matter even more in terms of the future of Kazakh national identity. As Baikenov points out, Moscow’s policies in the early 1930s were directed against all the Turkic peoples of the USSR/

Copied from http://www.eurasiareview.com/0106201...t-moscow-oped/

[ButlerKing]

Turkish man's logic


A Turkmen who looks like this ( to me looks like a Turkic version of Jackie Chan). For the Turkish and Azeris, if marries/or f*cks a German women or Turkish women it's still Caucasoid man with Caucasoid women

[Gangrel]

lol your entire posting history consists of talking about mongoloid people. What is going on here bro?

He thinks we want to be pure Caucasoids lol

[Marmara]

Well ask the Turks and other racist bigots. Haven't you noticed the numbers of classification threads on Central Asians ? their obsessiveness of trying to proven central Asians are more Caucasoid than they want us to think.

Why don't they emphasize on the Caucasoid ancestry of Black Africans. Why don't they don't talk about Gypsies West Eurasian DNA haplogroup ( which are 80-90% ).

I don't know why some of these fools think that the Caucasoid ancestry of Central Asian Turks matter so much. I've seen seen many half Chinese/ half Japanese / half Korean who look a 100 times more Caucasoid phenotypically than Central Asians but still they act as if Central Asians are Europoids with slant eyes.

I have no idea why this bothers you so much. What does this have to do with racism? It's a fact Central Asian Turkics aren't 100% mongoloid. Northwesterners (like Bashkirs) have high Caucasoid while southerners (like Turkmens) have additional South Asian admixture. Kazakhs have exceptionally high Mongoloid reaching to 80% because many Mongol tribes settled in Kazakhstan after Mongol Conquest.

[ButlerKing]

You're boring everyone with your stupid threats, butthurt! Stop this threads! Also the fact is Caucasoids killed many of Mongoloids in the history. For example: Look at the Soviet history! It's full of genocides! Also Kazakh genocide is the one of them(1932-33). Your Caucasiod brothers killed million of (predominantly)mongoloid Kazakhs and made the rest slaves! Here is proof:

Another Soviet Genocide – Kazakhstan, 1932-1933 — Coming Back To Haunt Moscow – OpEd
June 1, 2016 Paul Goble 2 Comments
By Paul Goble



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It's called Karma for the Mongol's ass. God punished central Asians for their evil historical deeds and send noble Russians and Indians to punish their historical crimes.

This is a pay back for Kazakh enslaving 100,000 Russian, Germans to central Asia. Nogais enslaving of million east europeans in slave trade.

The most horrible thing was Timurs invasion of Delhi where they executed 100,000 Indians and enslave million Indians.

The Central Asian Turks enslaving of million Persians, Iranians to Central Asia. Mongol massacre of millions innocent people.

( You can read all of these historical crimes from wikipedia, articles, historical books )



Even the modern day Northeast Indians who are Mongoloids ( with 30% South Asian Indian DNA ) were historical described as head hunting barbarians by Indian's historical records. They invaded the indigenous Australoids lands from modern day Burma/China and and raided many Indians so now Indians must teach them not to be such barbarians.


Keep in mind For us Northeast Indians are also " Chinese " and they are less Mongoloid than Kazakhs, Kyrgyz so I don't why you think they aren't East Asians.