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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    Stalin's mass murders were 'entirely rational' says new Russian textbook praising tyrant
    Why is it worse than praising genocidal Anglo capitalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    When Germany first attacked the SU. he was surprised they attacked so soon and even got a bit nervous since he didn't see the SU as prepared for WW2 yet. If he thought that Germany attacked too soon, there is no way he would send his military to break the pact and attack Germany. He saw his own countrymen as disposable garbage so I doubt he cared about Poles dying.

    After the war was over, the SU made all of Eastern Europe and East Germany part of it's sphere of influence. I don't get what you mean by "after the war was already over".
    No he did not care about Poles dying or about Jews dying in Warsaw.

    By "after the war was already over" i meant that there must be a reason why Stalin didn't help Poles in Warsaw. He was holding his forces during the Warsaw Uprising, despite his army being so close.
    I believe one theory suggests he wanted Germans to destroy Poles and pave the way for him. Could be i got it all wrong...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

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    Quote Originally Posted by shlömö View Post
    No he did not care about Poles dying or about Jews dying in Warsaw.

    By "after the war was already over" i meant that there must be a reason why Stalin didn't help Poles in Warsaw. He was holding his forces during the Warsaw Uprising, despite his army being so close.
    I believe one theory suggests he wanted Germans to destroy Poles and pave the way for him. Could be i got it all wrong...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

    Why he would have cared those? He did't even cared about his own people...

    Yup. Some believes: country is existing for its people; others believes people are existing for the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrvegr View Post
    Why is it worse than praising genocidal Anglo capitalism?
    Russia is capitalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Why he would have cared those? He did't even cared about his own people...

    Yup. Some believes: country is existing for it's people; others believes people are existing for the country.
    There is no such thing as a "country" in Bolshevism even. That's being too generous.
    The revolutionaries were internationalists and sure as fuck weren't fighting for Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shlömö View Post
    Stalin didn't help Poles in Warsaw.
    Should he?
    You did not help african children that died when you were writing this post, should you be ashamed?
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    Fuck Stalin and the Soviet Union. Deportation, prejudice and imprisonment upon my family is all thanks to dirty commies and stalin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    There is no such thing as a "country" in Bolshevism even. That's being too generous.
    The revolutionaries were internationalists and sure as fuck weren't fighting for Russia.
    So you call those guys (Red army)....who attacked to Finland (November 30th 1939) as Bolshevicks?

    Finns? Hardly. We call Bolshevicks those forces which tried to influence Finland at 1918 (Finland's civil war time).

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    Greetings to Russian comrads.

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    Speaking about neo-stalinism we need to look down through history of Russia.
    300 years ago Russia already had 'Stalin' he is now called Peter the Great. Peter was viewed as vulgar and rude tyrant by people who knew him and those who lived shortly afterwards. His image was extremely negative untill Catherine 2 campaign of whitewashing of him started. In 19 century Peter became not tyrant but 'controversial' tsar, who may had some shortcomings but so does great achievements. In 20 centrury bolsheviks, who were too geniune supporters of tough decisions and permanent solutions, evolved Peter into 'greatest' tsar ever lived (prio to bolshevik take over ofc)

    Stalin may follow the same way. Firstly he was all round winner, he did not lose anything nor ever backed down. Secondly current regime is struggling with economical crisis and drop of public support, so advocating 'tough' policies combined with achievements in the past contribute to justification of current regime's breakdown of public freedom and democracy.
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