Are some Americans more American than others?

[jingorex]

Americans are too organic to be boxed in like that.

Ive met Koreans that were more American that some people born in America.

Its a result of environmental conditioning and the fortitude of an individual human being that determines the answer.

You are American, or you are not. No matter where you came from or what color you are.

[dperucca]

smeagol already made a thread similar to this.. like 200 pages..

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Real-Americans

This sounded very familiar to me too lol

[Cristiano viejo]

I would think English-Americans are "More American" because they descend from the Founding Stock.

No, they did not found America.

[Latinus]

No, they did not found America.

The Spaniards were the first to settle in present USA, but the English people were the founding stock of the 13 colonies, are the dominant culture and the most common ancestry.

[Cristiano viejo]

The Spaniards were the first to settle in present USA, but the English people were the founding stock of the 13 colonies, are the dominant culture and the most common ancestry.

The 13 colonies were not the first thing to be founded, so no, they nor are the original Americans nor they are more American than others.

[Latinus]

The 13 colonies were not the first thing to be founded, so no, they nor are the original Americans nor they are more American than others.

No, they weren't. But from them you now have the current USA. Were there any Spaniard among the Founding Fathers? Which one of the two surnames is the most common in the US: Sanchez or Smith? Which language is most spoken in America: english or spanish? Is the average American more English or Spaniard looking?

[Cristiano viejo]

No, they weren't. But from them you now have the current USA.

Current USA can not be imagined without Los Ángeles or San Francisco, without mustang horses, longhorns or cowboys.

Were there any Spaniard among the Founding Fathers?

Were there any English among the people that founded San Antonio or San José?

Which one of the two surnames is the most common in the US: Sanchez or Smith?

So surnames like O´Sullivan is not American, or less American than Smith, just because is less common?? Is that your logic?

Which language is most spoken in America: english or spanish?

Depend. In Texas or New Mexico, fifty fifty...

Is the average American more English or Spaniard looking?

So Polish, Italians, Germans etc are not Americans, or less Americans, than English people, just because are less common? Is that your logic?

[kleenex]

I consider the Americans of English, Irish, German, Italian descend a little bit more Americans than others

My grandparents arrived here in the early 1900's and moved West to Wyoming, Alaska and Washington state working their asses off as Union rail-workers. My paternal grandfather was at the hanging of Tom Horn in Cheyenne Wyomiing, circa 1903. My maternal grandfather worked with Swedes in Alaska (only Greek) and was part of the clean up effort in San Francisco following the earthquake of 1906. They embraced America and were as American as any immigrant before them.

[Latinus]

Current USA can not be imagined without Los Ángeles or San Francisco, without mustang horses, longhorns or cowboys.


Were there any English among the people that founded San Antonio or San José?


So surnames like O´Sullivan is not American, or less American than Smith, just because is less common?? Is that your logic?


Depend. In Texas or New Mexico, fifty fifty...


So Polish, Italians, Germans etc are not Americans, or less Americans, than English people, just because are less common? Is that your logic?

I'm not saying surname "X is less American". I'm saying it's less common. English surnames are the most common in the United States. Why is that? Because Americans are majority English and the founding stock originated in England.

Yep, the American Southwest belonged to Mexico and the US's southern neighbour was a Spanish colony. But Mexico lost it to the United States. And I don't think the Americans that fought Mexico were Criollos.

The other Euros are also American, but they don't belong to the Fouding Stock. An American of colonial English ancestry will have more identification with American history than a guy whose ancestry wholly originated with Southern Italians immigrants in the XIX and XX centuries.

Yes, some places of the US Spanish might be more common in some areas, but english dominate in the country. And most Spanish speakers in the US are Mestizos, not Criollos. And many Americans even think Spanish is not a white man's language.

[Bobby Martnen]

Current USA can not be imagined without Los Ángeles or San Francisco, without mustang horses, longhorns or cowboys.

Those were acquired by America later, and not part of its founding.

Were there any English among the people that founded San Antonio or San José?

No, but those cities were acquired by war and treaties decades after the USA was founded.

So surnames like O´Sullivan is not American, or less American than Smith, just because is less common?? Is that your logic?

Mr. O'Sullivan is likely to be less ancestrally American than Mr. Smith.

Depend. In Texas or New Mexico, fifty fifty...

Due to recent immigration, not historical settlement patterns.

So Polish, Italians, Germans etc are not Americans, or less Americans, than English people, just because are less common? Is that your logic?

They're a lot more likely to have recent foreign roots. (Though not necessarily for the Germans - see Pennsylvania Dutch)