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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    If you speak Georgian, we can find similarities with Basque, we are at least 3 forum members that know or can speak Basque.(at least, Batua, unified Basque), it could be interesting.

    For example, we can start by numbers:

    1=bat
    2=bi
    3=hiru
    4=lau
    5=bost/borst
    6=sei
    7=zazpi
    8=zortzi
    9=bederatzi
    10=hamar
    11=hamaika
    12=hamabi(hamar+bi)
    13=hamairu(hamar+hiru)
    14=hamalau
    15=hamabost
    16=hamasei
    17=hamazazpi/hemezazpi
    18=hamazortzi/hemezortzi
    19=hemeretzi(hamar+bederatzi)
    20=hogei
    21=hogeita bat
    30=hogeita hamar(20+10)
    31=hogeita hamaika
    40=berrogei(2X20)
    41=berrogeita bat
    50=berrogeita hamar(2X20+10)
    51=berrogeita hamabi
    60=hirurogei(3X20)
    70=hirurogeita hamar(3X20+10)
    80=laurogei(4X20)
    90=laurogeita hamar(4X20+10)
    100=ehun
    1000=mila
    If Basque language and Kartvelian languages are relative then their relativness is so deep that it is impossible to compare them without linguistic knowledges

    For example, sei in Basque and ekvsi in Georgian are of IndoEuropean origin

    ogei (Basque) - *oc protoKartvelian
    zorztzi (ten without two z-or-tzi) - protoK. *jor (two)

    I have taken it from Russian linguistic forum
    I don't know myself.
    But there is an interesting news from genetic science. There was a migration from modern Georgian territories toward Europe near 13-12 000 BC

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    Also some arguments to this hypothesis
    "...The following comparisons relate to the basic conceptions concerned with fire and water in Kartvelian and Basque.

    Fire:

    1. c’u-w-a (< *c’w-aw-a) (Old Georg.) “to burn”, č’u-a (Megr.) “id.”, o-č’-u (<*o-č’w-u) (Laz) “to burn, heat up”, li-č’-i (<*li-č’w-i) (Svan) “to heat up” : Basq. su “fire”
    2. cx-el-i (Old Georg.) “hot, heated”, čx-e (Megr.) “id.”, čx-e (Laz) “fever, ardour”, li-šx-i (Svan) “to burn” : Basq. (AN) i-ra-tz-i “to set fire, inflame”, (G) i-ra-ze-ki/i-ze-ki “id.”, i-ze-ki “to burn, be on fire”
    3. k’wam-/k’um- (Old Georg.) “to smoke”, k’um-a (Megr.) “id.”, k’om-a (Laz) “id.”, li-k’wam-e (Svan) “id.” : Basq. (AN, B, G) ke , (B, L, S) khe “smoke”. The same word with definite article sounds as ke-a (B), kee-a (B arc.), kei-a (B, L, R). The Proto-Basque archetype could be reconstructed as *keni (intervocalic -n- is frequently dropped out)
    4. na-berc’k’-al-i (Old Georg.) “sparkle”, no-p’inc’k’-al-e (Laz) “id.” : Basq. (L) pindar , (BN, S) phindar, (AN) pintar, (L) pinta “sparkle”
    5. k’inc’ol-i (Georg. dial.) “sparkle” : Basq. (AN) txindor (<*kindor) “grain, corn”. For the affricatization of k- before vowel i cf. e.g. zintzurri “throat” < *kintzurri.

    Water:

    1. ghwar-, ghur- (Old Georg.) “to pour, shed, run”, ghwar-i “river, rain-water ” : Basq. hur “water”
    2. c’k’ar-i, c’ar-i (Laz) “water”, c’a-mapxa “spring” (= water + cold) : Basq. i-tsa-so “ sea”
    3. na-k’ad-ul-i (Old Georg.) “stream, flow, river” : Basq. (S) gadurri “spring”. The initial Basque voiceless k- frequently transforms to voiced g-.
    4. c’ur-w-a (Old Georg.) “to squeeze”, č’ir-u-a (Megr.) “id.”, č’or- (Laz), li-č’wr-e (Svan) “id.” : Basq. i-sur-i “to pour, shed”
    5. ne-rc’q’w-i (Old Georg.) “spittle”, le-rč’q’w-a (Megr.), le-nč’q’w-a (Laz), na-šq’w (Svan) “id.” : Basq. (B) i-nots-i “to flow out, well out”. The labial element of root phoneme is anticipated.
    6. c’rd-ol-a (Old Georg.) “flow” : Basq. (B) i-suld-i “to pour, shed”
    7. p’er-i (Old Georg.) “foam”, p’adž-i (Megr.), p’er (Svan) “id.” : Basq. (AN, G) a-par “foam”.
    8. c’inc’k’wl-a (<*c’inc’k’(a)l-aw-a) (Georg.) “drizzle” : Basq. sintxar (<*sintsar)-euri “id.”
    9. c’wim-a (Old Georg.) “rain”, č’wim-a (Megr.), č’im-a (Laz) “id.” : Basq. osin (<*i-swin or swin) “puddle, pool, snowy wind”. The labial element of root phoneme is anticipated as in № 5. The final –m regularly corresponds to –n in Basque.
    10. creml-i (<kreml-i) (Old Georg.) “tears”, čilamur-i (<*kilamur-i) (Megr.), čilamur-e (<*kilamur-e) (Laz), kimr (Svan) : Basq. euri (<*heuri <*hermri)“rain”

    The aforecited comparisons verify the phonological law by R.Lafon (Kartvelian c’; c = Basque ts; s; tz; z) and regular correspondence between final Kartvelian –l and Basque –r..."

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