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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Bullshit, the ME has varying amount of non-Caucasoid blood. Christians, Druze, Yazidis and Oriental Jews are the purest.
    Lol at product of rape or mixing. There was nowhere near enough mixing with Europeans, let alone rape to whiten the population. Such a claim is ridiculous.
    Yazidis don't differ from normal Kurds, they are just slightly blonder due to inbreeding. Have you seen Egyptian and ethnic Arab Christians from Jordan and southern Iraq? They are very dark and look nothing like Europeans. The Ethnic Arab Christians from Jordan often claim Bedouin descent, well the Arab Christians in Southern Iraq are descendants of the Lakhmids. Oriental Jews mostly Mizrahim are dark and not light depending on the area they hail from. Since there has been Sephardim and even Ashkenazi migration in some Mideast nations. Iraqi Mizrahim can range in skin tone, those from the south tend to be dark as the local Arabs, well those from the North tend to be lighter, plus they have more of an Armenoid look to them.

    There is no question that Europeans have left their impact in some areas such as the Greco-Romans, Crusaders, French and British colonization, and yes there were European and Caucasian slaves in the Mideast. In fact they did not whiten the area, they are simply strangers in the area.

    In one Mideast family the sister can look swarthy typical MENA and yet her full blood brother can look "White" or pesudo-European, it's not uncommon in Iraq or even in Yemen where non-Arab mercenaries were brought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    North_Atlantic 36.9
    2 West_Med 26.86
    3 East_Med 15.65
    4 Baltic 9.37
    5 Red_Sea 3.36
    6 West_Asian 2.73
    7 Sub-Saharan 2.04
    8 Northeast_African 1.87
    9 Amerindian 0.78
    10 Oceanian 0.45

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Extremadura 2.64
    2 Portuguese 3.42
    3 Spanish_Murcia 3.66
    4 Spanish_Andalucia 4.22
    5 Spanish_Valencia 4.74
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.83
    7 Spanish_Galicia 4.95
    8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.32
    9 Spanish_Cataluna 5.96
    10 Spanish_Cantabria 7.29
    11 North_Italian 7.83
    12 Spanish_Aragon 8
    13 Southwest_French 9.75
    14 French 12.44
    15 Tuscan 13.22
    16 West_German 18.57
    17 South_Dutch 18.62
    18 West_Sicilian 19.54
    19 French_Basque 19.94
    20 Italian_Abruzzo 20.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.8% Spanish_Valencia + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.5
    2 88% Spanish_Valencia + 12% Moroccan @ 1.52
    3 87.7% Spanish_Valencia + 12.3% Algerian @ 1.54
    4 88.1% Spanish_Valencia + 11.9% Tunisian @ 1.69
    5 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% Tunisian @ 1.88
    6 82.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 17.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.9
    7 94.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
    8 82.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 17.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.94
    9 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% Algerian @ 1.95
    10 94.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.97
    11 94.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.98
    12 91.3% Spanish_Murcia + 8.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 2
    13 85.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.6% Moroccan @ 2
    14 91.5% Spanish_Murcia + 8.5% Tunisian @ 2
    15 85.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.02
    16 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.03
    17 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.04
    18 86.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 13.8% Egyptian @ 2.05
    19 94.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.05
    20 92.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 7.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.06
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Post MDLP World please.
    MDLP World Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 49.03
    2 North_and_East_European 24.96
    3 Middle_East 15.72
    4 Caucaus_Parsia 6.67
    5 Sub_Saharian 3.22
    6 Melanesian 0.21
    7 Mesoamerican 0.13
    8 Paleo_African 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Portugese 6.99
    2 Italian_North 8.08
    3 Provancal 8.59
    4 Swiss 8.62
    5 Bulgarian 9.3
    6 Montenegrin 9.43
    7 Italian-North 9.53
    8 Macedonian 9.56
    9 Iberian 10.2
    10 Corsican 10.56
    11 Gagauz 11.1
    12 Serbian 11.26
    13 Spaniard 11.78
    14 Romania 11.78
    15 Ashkenazim_V 12.57
    16 French 13.21
    17 German-South 13.54
    18 Greek_South 14.4
    19 Bosnian 14.69
    20 Greek_North 14.7

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55% Latvian_V + 45% Otzi @ 2.6
    2 83.9% Provancal + 16.1% Mozabite @ 3.44
    3 84% Swiss + 16% Mozabite @ 3.53
    4 82.9% French + 17.1% Bedouin @ 3.61
    5 90.2% Provancal + 9.8% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.61
    6 90.2% Provancal + 9.8% Jew-Ethiopia @ 3.66
    7 85.4% Provancal + 14.6% Moroccan @ 3.71
    8 76.5% French + 23.5% Mozabite @ 3.86
    9 79.7% French + 20.3% Egyptian @ 3.87
    10 90.3% Provancal + 9.7% Ethiopian @ 3.89
    11 91.1% Italian_North + 8.9% Jew_Ethiopia @ 4.07
    12 91.1% Italian_North + 8.9% Jew-Ethiopia @ 4.08
    13 67% Bosnian + 33% Otzi @ 4.11
    14 89.1% Provancal + 10.9% Bedouin @ 4.13
    15 85.7% Swiss + 14.3% Moroccan @ 4.14
    16 59.8% Croatian_V + 40.2% Otzi @ 4.18
    17 52.6% Ukrainian_V + 47.4% Otzi @ 4.18
    18 91.2% Italian_North + 8.8% Ethiopian @ 4.21
    19 68% Portugese + 32% Ashkenazim_V @ 4.23
    20 89.1% Swiss + 10.9% Bedouin @ 4.23

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBedouin View Post
    Yazidis don't differ from normal Kurds, they are just slightly blonder due to inbreeding. Have you seen Egyptian and ethnic Arab Christians from Jordan and southern Iraq? They are very dark and look nothing like Europeans. The Ethnic Arab Christians from Jordan often claim Bedouin descent, well the Arab Christians in Southern Iraq are descendants of the Lakhmids. Oriental Jews mostly Mizrahim are dark and not light depending on the area they hail from. Since there has been Sephardim and even Ashkenazi migration in some Mideast nations. Iraqi Mizrahim can range in skin tone, those from the south tend to be dark as the local Arabs, well those from the North tend to be lighter, plus they have more of an Armenoid look to them.

    There is no question that Europeans have left their impact in some areas such as the Greco-Romans, Crusaders, French and British colonization, and yes there were European and Caucasian slaves in the Mideast. In fact they did not whiten the area, they are simply strangers in the area.

    In one Mideast family the sister can look swarthy typical MENA and yet her full blood brother can look "White" or pesudo-European, it's not uncommon in Iraq or even in Yemen where non-Arab mercenaries were brought.
    All I can say is that Christian Syrians, Lebanese, etc. assimilate in North and South America while you turban and burqa wearing Islamists don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Bro just reading this is embarrasing. If you are an Iraqi Arab there's nothing to be proud of, trust me my family is from Iraq. The horror stories I've heard from my great-grand parents of how the Arabs treated them is just mindblowing. You know there is a reason why ISIS became so big in Iraq in the first place, because they had a lot of support from Sunni Arabs.
    I am a Bedouin Arab, originally from the Arabian peninsula, when the British tried to colonize and plunder it. Thus in 1921 the British and their Saud allies invade r area known as Jebal Shammar and expel them to Iraq, where they settle in Mosul, but they continue to fight the British thieves. As recently many of the Bedouin tribes in Iraq have actually been fighting against ISIS, the corrupt Anglo-Zionist placed government post 2003, and they also fought heavily against the Anglo-Zio-European forces also. Iraqi Bedouin tribes often offered protection to weak minorities from Kurdish,Persian, Turkish, and other Arab raids, but yes they took a tribute for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    MDLP World Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 49.03
    2 North_and_East_European 24.96
    3 Middle_East 15.72
    4 Caucaus_Parsia 6.67
    5 Sub_Saharian 3.22
    6 Melanesian 0.21
    7 Mesoamerican 0.13
    8 Paleo_African 0.07

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    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Portugese 6.99
    2 Italian_North 8.08
    3 Provancal 8.59
    4 Swiss 8.62
    5 Bulgarian 9.3
    6 Montenegrin 9.43
    7 Italian-North 9.53
    8 Macedonian 9.56
    9 Iberian 10.2
    10 Corsican 10.56
    11 Gagauz 11.1
    12 Serbian 11.26
    13 Spaniard 11.78
    14 Romania 11.78
    15 Ashkenazim_V 12.57
    16 French 13.21
    17 German-South 13.54
    18 Greek_South 14.4
    19 Bosnian 14.69
    20 Greek_North 14.7

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55% Latvian_V + 45% Otzi @ 2.6
    2 83.9% Provancal + 16.1% Mozabite @ 3.44
    3 84% Swiss + 16% Mozabite @ 3.53
    4 82.9% French + 17.1% Bedouin @ 3.61
    5 90.2% Provancal + 9.8% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.61
    6 90.2% Provancal + 9.8% Jew-Ethiopia @ 3.66
    7 85.4% Provancal + 14.6% Moroccan @ 3.71
    8 76.5% French + 23.5% Mozabite @ 3.86
    9 79.7% French + 20.3% Egyptian @ 3.87
    10 90.3% Provancal + 9.7% Ethiopian @ 3.89
    11 91.1% Italian_North + 8.9% Jew_Ethiopia @ 4.07
    12 91.1% Italian_North + 8.9% Jew-Ethiopia @ 4.08
    13 67% Bosnian + 33% Otzi @ 4.11
    14 89.1% Provancal + 10.9% Bedouin @ 4.13
    15 85.7% Swiss + 14.3% Moroccan @ 4.14
    16 59.8% Croatian_V + 40.2% Otzi @ 4.18
    17 52.6% Ukrainian_V + 47.4% Otzi @ 4.18
    18 91.2% Italian_North + 8.8% Ethiopian @ 4.21
    19 68% Portugese + 32% Ashkenazim_V @ 4.23
    20 89.1% Swiss + 10.9% Bedouin @ 4.23
    Wow, you're basically 1/32 Sub-Saharan, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    You do have some Iberian heritage that pops in every test. probably ancient mix, but in some test you are 1/6 Iberian, which is not low. I wonder if you are typical among berbers or more Atypical.
    1/6 Iberian ? In which test ?
    According to K13, the closest Europeans populations are Sicilians, Italians from Abruzzo and Greeks but they're still far (between 24 and 29). None of them is Iberian.
    In the "Mixed Mode population", I have various Iberian-population (Sardinian and French as well) but it's always lower than 5%.

    7 of 8 great-grandparents were Berbers from the Atlas mountains. One of them was from the Arabized Berbers of Northwestern Morocco. They usually score highest "Iberian/European" than the Moroccan average, whether due to ancient affinities or too more recent admixture (Romanized Iberians and Islamized Iberians) that have settled in North Africans cities.
    I guess this great-grandfather is increasing my European-like component.

    My Y-DNA's clade is supposed to have came from Iberia, but it has done so in ancient times (likely about 3500 years ago). I guess it doesn't really affect my Autosomal.
    Note that the great-grandfather who was from Northern Morocco wasn't my Y-ancestor but rather my father's maternal grandfather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBedouin View Post
    I am a Bedouin Arab, originally from the Arabian peninsula, when the British tried to colonize and plunder it. Thus in 1921 the British and their Saud allies invade r area known as Jebal Shammar and expel them to Iraq, where they settle in Mosul, but they continue to fight the British thieves. As recently many of the Bedouin tribes in Iraq have actually been fighting against ISIS, the corrupt Anglo-Zionist placed government post 2003, and they also fought heavily against the Anglo-Zio-European forces also. Iraqi Bedouin tribes often offered protection to weak minorities from Kurdish,Persian, Turkish, and other Arab raids, but yes they took a tribute for it.
    I don't know about all that. What I do know is that Sunni Arabs in Iraq are evil to the core. You can blame the US and Israel all you want, everyone knows their agenda. But ISIS didn't capture Mosul and it's 2 million inhabitants with their small army. Nope, they had enormous support from the Sunni Arabs living there. Do you know how many Assyrians that are being killed in Iraq by Arabs yet to this day?

    Also you know your precious Arabs are very much part of this Anglo-Jewish alliance? Or do you actually think Saudi Arabia is innocent in all of what's happening in the ME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Wow, you're basically 1/32 Sub-Saharan, lol.
    The number these calculators put out is regards to that is far too inconsistent on K16 Modern I’m 0.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Also you know your precious Arabs are very much part of this Anglo-Jewish alliance? Or do you actually think Saudi Arabia is innocent in all of what's happening in the ME?
    S. Arabia is a Wahabi hellhole and needs to be nuked. Those camel...riders are rich only as long as they have money from crude oil trade. Without oil, Western technologies and South Asian manpower they would be as in the times of Mohammed.
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