Moorish genetic legacy?

[Tietar]

Most likely the modest SSA in Iberians, Sicilians and Maltese is from converted Moors.

Around 1/8 of ancestry of Spaniards is from Moorish conquests.

false.

in the northwest of Spain it is much higher than in the southeast, in Galicia it is especially high, instead in Granada (the last Muslim stronghold where the Muslims took refuge for 200 years) is residual. The Moors converted were expelled in the 17th century

There is a theory that during the ethnic cleansing the Muslims who managed to escape the expulsion went to the north to take refuge, but it is a bit absurd to go to Galicia where the Andalusian accent would give them away.

so the other theory that is thousands of years old, is more reasonable

[TheForeigner]

So both the bulk of the North African and SSA in Iberians, as well as perhaps Sicilians and Maltese, is due to prehistoric migrations from North Africa?

[brennus dux gallorum]

So both the bulk of the North African and SSA in Iberians, as well as perhaps Sicilians and Maltese, is due to prehistoric migrations from North Africa?

Not sure about Sicilians (who probably intermixed with the moors) but for Iberia yes, connections are prehistoric, not medieval

[Demon Revival]

false.

in the northwest of Spain it is much higher than in the southeast, in Galicia it is especially high, instead in Granada (the last Muslim stronghold where the Muslims took refuge for 200 years) is residual. The Moors converted were expelled in the 17th century

There is a theory that during the ethnic cleansing the Muslims who managed to escape the expulsion went to the north to take refuge, but it is a bit absurd to go to Galicia where the Andalusian accent would give them away.

so the other theory that is thousands of years old, is more reasonable

Most Spaniards score minor levels of NA%. Except for the Basques. How do you explain that? You can also blame it on neolithic stuff because if that was the case even Frenchmen, Northern Italians, Balkanians and Greeks would have it but they don't. 5-9% is not exactly residual. And this is not the full extent of North African influence since most of the invaders did not score 100% north african but likely had some other European-like components. So this admixture should be increased at least 1/3 to fix that.

Galicians also do not score significantly more NA% than the others. It's just that their E1b1 levels are higher.





You do have moor admixture. Those small East Africa, Neo Africa and North Africa (and possibly Southwest Asian) components indicate a part of moorish admixture. This isn't a neolithic pre-historical stuff. If it were everyone would score it in relatively even levels and they don't. If it were all (southern) Europeans (and by extension basques) would score it and they don't.

[Leto]

How much of the genetic ancestry of Iberians, Sicilians and Maltese is of Moorish or North African origin? This is not a troll thread. I don't think NA admixture is shameful or makes anyone less European or inferior. I am just genuinely curious.

The non-Caucasoid admixture is very minor in Spain. Perhaps in Portugal it is more significant, especially on the islands. Spaniards are 98%+ Caucasoid. See the recent results of the user Polaciones.

[TheForeigner]

The non-Caucasoid admixture is very minor in Spain. Perhaps in Portugal it is more significant, especially on the islands. Spaniards are 98%+ Caucasoid. See the recent results of the user Polaciones.

And do you think them and Sicilians got their SSA from Moors or from prehistoric migrations?

[Leto]

And do you think them and Sicilians got their SSA from Moors or from prehistoric migrations?

I don't know. Probably both.

[Cristiano viejo]

Around 1/8 of ancestry of Spaniards is from Moorish conquests.

Sure.

Galicians also do not score significantly more NA% than the others. It's just that their E1b1 levels are higher.

Again you are inventing things https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...XwUsAA/pubhtml
Galicians score more SSA than Andalusians, in fact they are the 3rd region in that, whatever SSA means.

[Demon Revival]

Sure.



Again you are inventing things https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...XwUsAA/pubhtml
Galicians score more SSA than Andalusians, in fact they are the 3rd region in that, whatever SSA means.

Simple, it's because the North Africans that went there were more nigga (Tuaregs and such) and all the others in Andalusia and elsewhere were more coastal-like.

[TheForeigner]

Simple, it's because the North Africans that went there were more nigga (Tuaregs and such) and all the others in Andalusia and elsewhere were more coastal-like.

Very unlikely that Tuaregs went to Moorish Spain. There were also prehistoric migrations from North Africa.