Central Asian Genetic Contribution to the Turks

[Hudayar]

Hi. I tried to calculate the "Central Asian heritage" by using Afghan Turkmens on Eurogenes k13 spreadsheet and comparing them to Turkish Eurogenes K13 results. If anyone's wondering here Afghan Turkmen results on Eurogenes K13

Afghan Turkmen on Eurogenes K13 spreadsheet:

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North Atlantic: 7.16
Baltic: 12.65
West_Med: 3.08
West_Asian: 22.29
East_Med: 7.92
Red_Sea: 0.41
South_Asian: 8.31
East_Asian: 10.56
Siberian: 24.77
Amerindian: 1.32

If you're wondering, a Central Anatolian Turk

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North_Atlantic 6.98
Baltic: 7.15
West_Med: 11.52
West_Asian: 27.26
East_Med: 25.23
Red_Sea: 5.11
South_Asian: 2.80
East_Asian 5.52
Siberian: 7.36
Amerindian 1.08

Average mongoloid dna seems to be around 36.65%. If Seljuk Turkmens were similar to Afghan Turkmens, then the average Turks are around 30-35% Seljuk. I got the Turkish results from this page https://turkishdna.blogspot.com.tr/2...talamalar.html


My method: Just compared Afghan Turkmen mongoloid dna to Turkish mongoloid dna and calculated what percent of Turkish mongoloid dna is Afghan Turkmen mongoloid dna.


Results:

South Turkey

Adana: %33.39
Hatay: %24.52
Mersin: %35.06
Antalya: %35.03
Gaziantep: %19.20
Kilis: %12.55

Aegean and Southwestern Turkey

Afyon: %33.64
Afyon-Emirdağ: %31.51
Denizli: %31.29
Antalya: %35.30
Kütahya: %30.28
Muğla: %47.85
Manisa: %33.31
İzmir: %37.35
Uşak: %22.45
Isparta: %22.07

Thrace and Northwest Turkey

Eskişehir: %33.80
Sakarya: %45.53
Balıkesir: %40.35
Çanakkale: %45.18
Bolu: %30.85
Karabük: %31.73
İstanbul-1: %19.72
İstanbul-2: %16.69
Edirne: %20.57

Central-West Turkey

Konya: %22.67
Ankara: %26.38
Karaman: %26.11
Çankırı: %25.15
Aksaray: %27.20

Central-East Turkey

Niğde: %27.80
Kayseri: %25.59
Kırşehir: %32.16
Tokat: %25.83
Yozgat: %23.02
Nevşehir: %21.11
Sivas: %16.18

Eastern Turkey

Batman: %12.27
Malatya: %16.38
Elazığ: %9.95
Erzincan: %13.34
Erzurum-İspir: %3.54

Eastern Black Sea

Trabzon Outlier: %12.82
Trabzon: %1.71
Ordu: %35.77
Gümüşhane-Kürtün: %46.22
Giresun: %33.26
Rize: %0.16
Bayburt: %0.30

Central Black Sea

Samsun: %24.82

[Leto]

I think a mix of Turkmens and Anatolian Greeks or Armenians would have less NE European than many Western Turks do, so I suspect the Oghuz were more like Nogais than Turkmens. However, I'm not sure if Byzantines had any NE blood, perhaps they did.

[Hudayar]

Turks score less Baltic than Turkmens. It's highly likely that Byzantine Anatolians had less NE European than Turkmens.

I think a mix of Turkmens and Anatolian Greeks or Armenians would have less NE European than many Western Turks do, so I suspect the Oghuz were more like Nogais than Turkmens

This is actually more complex than it looks. Different Turkmen tribes migrated from different places. There are even Turkmen tribes from Azerbaijan that migrated to Central Anatolia (Karamanid dynasty is one of them). On the other hand some Turkmens migrated from Kazakhstan, some from Turkmenistan some from Afghanistan and some from Iran. So Turkmens were probably very diverse and this also correlates with unstable mongoloid component in Turks.

[Leto]

This is what a pure Oğuz Türk looks like

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.03
2 East_Med 23.03
3 West_Med 14.12
4 Baltic 10.97
5 Siberian 8.93
6 North_Atlantic 6.01
7 East_Asian 5.86
8 Red_Sea 2.46
9 South_Asian 2.16
10 Northeast_African 0.79
11 Oceanian 0.48
12 Sub-Saharan 0.16

1 50% Cyprian +50% Nogay @ 5.133964

1 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Kazakh @ 3.857254

[Hudayar]

This is what a pure Oğuz Türk looks like

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.03
2 East_Med 23.03
3 West_Med 14.12
4 Baltic 10.97
5 Siberian 8.93
6 North_Atlantic 6.01
7 East_Asian 5.86
8 Red_Sea 2.46
9 South_Asian 2.16
10 Northeast_African 0.79
11 Oceanian 0.48
12 Sub-Saharan 0.16

1 50% Cyprian +50% Nogay @ 5.133964

1 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Kazakh @ 3.857254

Looks like a western Turkish result.

[Pahli]

I think you need to specify this down to Turkmen genetic contribution to the Turks, as Central Asians themselves are quite diverse.

[Leto]

Did the Mongols leave any genetic impact in Turkey?

[Gangrel]

> Tfw you will never see Kahramanmaras results

[Hudayar]

I think you need to specify this down to Turkmen genetic contribution to the Turks, as Central Asians themselves are quite diverse.

Actually that's irrelevant. Central Asian is more general and attracts more attention. There was a study about Turks in 2012 scientist used Kyrgyz samples and called them "Central Asian". Also i'm thinking of calculating Central Asian heritage using other Central Asians too. I might do that someday.

[Hudayar]

Did the Mongols leave any genetic impact in Turkey?

No. Mongols themselves didn't have a genetic impact but they shaped the genetic make up of Turkey by forcing a large part of remaining Turkmen tribes in Central Asia to move to Anatolia.