Noses of elite in Europe

[Gold-Shekel]

Again about that inbreeding?! The founders of dynasties already had bigger noses than their descendants before any so called inbreeding! Moreover the European elite did not have any extraordinary inbreeding. As a matter of fact inbreeding in elite was completely same and similar to that one of low class.

And opposite to the European for comparison, the Ptolemaic dynasty in Ancient Egypt practiced an extreme form of inbreeding, including links between siblings - brothers and sisters from same mother and father, and yet it did not lead to any obvious effects, and for example, Cleopatra, which was the result of such an extreme inbreeding practiced for many centuries, was mentally, spiritually and physically an outstanding woman.

Why are you sucking dick of the inbred "elite"?

[Jana]

Truth be told, in middle ages commoners weren't much less inbred than elite (and elite had priviliges to marry foreigners while peasants were confined to their villages with little genetic diversity)
Most of Europeans were quite inbred until 20th century. People simply didn't know for dangers of cousin marriage.

We can't judge it from our modern perspective.

[Arsen_]

Vlad III Dracula, voivode (prince) of Wallachia

[Arsen_]

Fatih Sultan Mehmed II - conqueror of Constantinople and the first emperor

[Ilma]

OP sounds obsessed with huge noses, kind of weird...

It just is a matter of taste but this is true that aquiline and roman types of noses are known as "noble" or aristocratic feature and this has nothing to do with inbreeding.

Anyway nose is part of your face, a pretty one is only good looking because it fits the best with your other features as a whole, not just for the nose itself. That's why surgery can give aesthetic disasters...

If you have big chin, big mouth, big eye area etc and ask for a tiny baby nose to replace a big one... it will end just ridiculous on you.

Same thing if you have delicate gracile features, small eyes, thin lips etc... a huge nose on such a face would look very weird and ugly.

All your features should be harmonious together to look good.

[Arsen_]

Albert II of Habsburg, King of Germany, Hungary, Czech, around 1438



Grand Duke of Lithuania Gediminas, 1275-1341



Christian V, King of Denmark and Norway, 1670



Frederick III, King of Denmark (1648 – 1670)



Frederick IV, king of Denmark and Norway (1699–1730



King of Sweden Charles XII (1688-1741)

[Arsen_]

Edward III, King of England, 1327

[LostSoul]

If that counts, I have a quite prominent nose. My mother thought I broke it, but I received that shape of nose after my father. I can't say, I complain about it. I like birds (e.g. parrots, eagles, owls), so I like beak-like noses.

[RenaRyuguu]

this has nothing to do with class just google the jobs of your ancestors and you'll find if you're royal or not or just think about their mentality if they unfortunately were not given good jobs in past decades

[Roy]

Truth be told, in middle ages commoners weren't much less inbred than elite (and elite had priviliges to marry foreigners while peasants were confined to their villages with little genetic diversity)
Most of Europeans were quite inbred until 20th century. People simply didn't know for dangers of cousin marriage.

We can't judge it from our modern perspective.

My grandfather who's from a village told me that people indeed used to marry predominantly those born within a radius of 15 kilometres from each other but at the same time they knew at least in Poland who are their cousins and distant family members (at least officially ...) so they for the most part consciously avoided that fate actually as it was frowned upon if not directly prohibited. My great-grandmother from Warsaw (born 1922) though told me that the sister of her ... grandma so my great-great-great grandmother's sister was supposed to marry his cousin who owned a cafe in the 19th century but he suddenly died.