Debating video: "Are Catholics Christians?"

**Loki** · 02-09-2019, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Visage pâle

New testament is the most important for christians, ancient isn't. Protestants are too focused on ancient testament.

Hmm not really

We regard the New Testament as the culmination of God's message, certainly... Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets. The Old Testament is useful to look at as examples of God's work and also how it all points to Jesus. But you are right, the New Testament contains the core of God's message. It all complements each other, though. For example, Moses leading the ancient Israelites to the Promised Land is a forefunner of Jesus leading God's people to their promised land -- Heaven, out of the claws of pharaoh the oppressor, who signifies Satan.

And Jonah being in the belly of the fish for three days, even dying, then the fish spewing him out refers to Jesus' death for three days, and resurrection. And there are many more such examples.

**arkas** · 02-10-2019, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Loki

Catholicism cannot be called Christian. It is a mix of Christian and pagan beliefs, and deviate very much from Jesus and the apostles' teachings.

See here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-for-CATHOLICS

The same is true for other Christian denominations though, I was raised Catholic but half my family are Eastern Orthodox and I experienced both churches and traditions. In regards to some pagan influence, when people of the Greek Orthodox faith enter a church they do the sign of the cross and kiss pictures of Jesus, Mary or other Saints, this is after lighting a candle in a sand pit to honour or remember deceased loved ones, seems like a HIGHLY paganistic tradition imo.

People who claim Catholics not to be Christians are just trying to be edgy

**Nazarene** · 02-10-2019, 05:30 AM

BS ofc Catholics are Christians.

**~~Wanderer~~** · 03-17-2019, 01:59 AM

Probably the biggest reason for the Protestant Reformation is the Catholic Church taught (and still teaches) that salvation is not solely through grace but through works. The Catholic Church teaches a path to salvation that consists of works and rituals. This is a grave error! It's NO small matter, because Jesus's FINISHED work on the Cross is essential to our salvation.

If you believe that Jesus's death and resurrection are insufficient for your salvation, and that you must also do good works to attain salvation, then you will fall short! Good works cannot earn you salvation. You need to have faith that Jesus paid the full and complete price for your sins. Receive Him as your Lord and Savior!

**Laurentius** · 04-01-2019, 08:49 PM

Of course they are. All the protestant churches in one way or another are offshoots of the church of rome. And the oriental and orthodox churches recognize the Pope as the Bishop of Rome (but not as the head of the wholr church).

**Ruggery** · 04-02-2019, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Wanderer

Excellent comics I have about 30 of those printed comics and I recommend them because they bring many Christian teachings.

**Pansarkamrat** · 04-02-2019, 03:05 AM

Yes of course they are.

**Mortimer** · 04-05-2019, 02:24 AM

Of course they are.

**Richmondbread** · 04-06-2019, 05:11 PM

Some are, and some aren't. It's just like with any other denomination. The Catholics do have a lot of questionable ideas, however. Some are religious, but have no personal relationship with the Lord.