Debating video: "Are Catholics Christians?"

**Dragoon** · 01-28-2018, 04:39 PM

Yes they are. Certainly more than the Judeo-Christians, Rapture, Millenialist, Israel worshippers in the US.

**Jana** · 01-28-2018, 04:41 PM

''That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it''

**Vojnik** · 01-28-2018, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dragoon

Yes they are. Certainly more than the Judeo-Christians, Rapture, Millenialist, Israel worshippers in the US.

So Catholics arnt Judeo-Christians now?

There's no such thing as more or less Christian. There's only Christian.

**Loki** · 01-28-2018, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Teutone

All they did was killinf the united Christendom and started the 30years war.

You know what is sad? That you -- as a German with Prussian roots -- would say such a thing. The Thirty Years War was due to Catholics who didn't want to allow freedom of religion for Protestants!! And killed millions upon millions of Germans just because of their faith.

**Jana** · 01-28-2018, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

You know what is sad? That you -- as a German with Prussian roots -- would say such a thing. The Thirty Years War was due to Catholics who didn't want to allow freedom of religion for Protestants!! And killed millions upon millions of Germans just because of their faith.

Killings were both sided. There are two sides needed for a war. Protestants killed many Catholics too. But it is past now!

**Mingle** · 01-28-2018, 04:47 PM

I've literally met several people here in the US say "I'm not a Christian I'm a Catholic". Anyways, I consider them to be Christians.

**Loki** · 01-28-2018, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

''That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it''

This is the only thing that Catholics always quote, but they don't even know the correct meaning thereof.

This does not, in any way, refer to the Catholic Church!! Also, Peter did not establish the Catholic Church either. The Roman Catholic Church was only established in the 5th century! Don't believe the lies.

**Loki** · 01-28-2018, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

I've literally met several people here in the US say "I'm not a Christian I'm a Catholic". .

They are at least honest when they say that.

**Dandelion** · 01-28-2018, 04:49 PM

I believe it's not the place of people of a certain branch of Christianity to label others non-Christian. That's a very dangerous route to go.

**Dragoon** · 01-28-2018, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Vojnik

So Catholics arnt Judeo-Christians now?

There's no such thing as more or less Christian. There's only Christian.

Catholics and Orthodox are not Judeo-Christian.
A real Christian, is Christian. Judeo-Christian is a heresy. Two opposing religions. Especially the evil Talmud.

If you are waiting for 1000 years reign you are likely waiting for the antiChrist.
How then can Judeo-Christian dispensationalists be Christian? If they wait for antiChrist?

The Catholic Church strongly condemns millennialism as the following shows:

The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.
— Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1995

The Orthodox Church also rejects Millenialism.