Which of German death camps was Polish ???

[Peterski]

I'm so curious, apparently at least one of German death camps was in fact Polish:

https://twitter.com/yairlapid?ref_sr...aw-israel.html



I wonder which one.

I contacted Ewa Bazan from KL Auschwitz museum asking her about the fate of my relative who was killed there on Saint Stephen's Day in 1943. She found her death certificate, and it was written in German (why would even a Polish camp issue documents in German language?):

http://www.auschwitz.org/kontakt/ewa...ml?id_dzialu=3



So maybe another death camp was Polish and its documents were written in Polish?

Please tell me which one was that? Name it. Or post geographical coordinates.

[Peterski]

This is how a KL Auschwitz Totenbuch looks like, as you can see it is written in German:

http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/about...-auschwitz-iii

[Sandman]

[Methuselah]

I don't think Poles had any death camps (correct me if i'm wrong) but they definitely are responsible for many Jewish lives. Those who are, they are, not all Poles of course.

[Lightshade25]

I don't think Poles had any death camps (correct me if i'm wrong) but they definitely are responsible for many Jewish lives. Those who are, they are, not all Poles of course.

This.

Since the initial vote, Reuters reported, Holocaust survivors have been giving interviews about Poles refusing to help them or turning them over to Nazis.

“When they came to round us up and put us in the ghetto, father said to run away quickly,” Esther Lieber told the daily newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth. “We were very scared and fled into the woods. The Poles threw stones at us and cursed us.”

Haaretz wrote that, given the proposed law’s breadth, survivors could soon face prosecution in Poland for giving such testimony.

“The implication of the new law means that in theory, a Jewish Holocaust survivor from Poland who lives in Israel, who may make a statement such as, ‘The Polish people were involved in the murder of my grandfather in the Holocaust’ or ‘My mother was murdered in a Polish extermination camp,’ would be liable for imprisonment in Poland,” Haaretz wrote.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN1FH0S3

[Peterski]

Claims that Poles were supposedly more antisemitic than other Europeans or collaborated with German occupiers more often than others, are "anecdotal evidence" - and even if true, it has nothing to do with who was running those death camps - Germany or Poland. This new Polish law aims at penalizing claims that deaths camps were operated by the independent Polish state and/or by ethnic Poles. It does not penalize any other claim about Polish collaborators or Anti-Semites. Curiously Jewish historian David Solomon did not mention Poland as a particularly Anti-Semitic nation, he mentioned Germany:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUlM2a2tsOM#t=3350

Fragment from 55:50 onwards:

"(...) The Shoah is not an isolated event. The project to exterminate the Jews of Germany happens here [pointing at the timeline of history], and here, and here, and here, and here, and here. And so people say - so why did Jews keep going back to Germany? Why did Jews keep going back? And I say - look at your own generation. Only half a century after the Holocaust, and what is the largest growing Jewish community in the world outside of Israel? It's Germany. And yet surely the lesson of this entire wall [pointing at the timeline of history] is that Jews should not be living in Germany. We hope and we pray... in the end of the day, in hundreds of years from now, I'm hoping that... well, if I'm starting to explain that more I'm gonna get further and further into problem, so I'm gonna stop, let's go back to history (...)"



It is well known that many Ashkenazi Jews still secretely love Germans and feel close to them (at least closer than to Slavic nations), so they want to white-wash Germany. It's still hard for them to believe that those civilized and cultured Germans could be so barbaric, inhumane and cruel. It's better to blame poor illiterate Polish peasants instead of blaming "Ashkenaz" (Ashkenaz means Germany).

Jochen Böhler in his book "Auftakt zum Vernichtungskrieg: Die Wehrmacht in Polen 1939" even quoted testimonies of some German soldiers from September 1939, which say that Jewish population in many towns welcomed German invaders in a rather friendly way. They could not see what was coming, many of them were probably ignorant of what was happening with Jews in Germany. They expected German occupation to be like it was back in 1915-1918, after the Gorlice-Tarnów Offensive.

Guess what, in 1915-1918 Polish Jews were not exterminated in Polish death camps.

And in those years entire Poland was occupied by Germany and Austria-Hungary.

[Óttar]

The Polish, after surrendering to Germany, decided to collaborate with the Nazis because they didn't like Russia, and they didn't care about Jews. Many even hated them.

[Peterski]

The Polish, after surrendering to Germany, decided to collaborate with the Nazis because they didn't like Russia, and they didn't care about Jews. Many even hated them.

And such claims like yours should be penalized.

3 million Non-Jewish Polish civilians lost their lifes under both German and Russian occupation during WW2. My family was affected by the Holocaust too. And according to Doug McDonald's BGA I might even have small amount of Jewish admixture. So I guess I can speak on behalf of both Poles and Polish Jews:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ld-BGA-results

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4788721

Claiming that death camps were Polish is just like Holocaust denial, and should be penalized. Too many Catholic Poles were also killed in those camps, and such claims = disrespect of their memory.

[Peterski]

they didn't care about Jews. Many even hated them.

Based on your posts, you don't care about for example Mexican-Americans. Perhaps you even hate them, since you complained so much about living in Non-White areas, and wrote about planning to move to more White areas. And I'm sure some Mexican-Americans hate you too.

Just like some Jews even hated Poles, as Mark Paul wrote:

http://www.glaukopis.pl/images/artyk...s_MarkPaul.pdf

BTW, yes - I do predict a race war in the USA. Perhaps even genocide.

[Peterski]

I don't think Poles had any death camps (correct me if i'm wrong) but they definitely are responsible for many Jewish lives. Those who are, they are, not all Poles of course.

Yes there were Polish collaborators. But there were also Jewish collaborators with the Soviet Communist regime in Eastern Poland in 1939-1941, and those Jewish collaborators were responsible for many Polish lives. It is still no excuse to claim about Polish death camps or about Judeo-Communism.

In general I agree with you though.