Salvation and repentance is possible after death

[Loki]

Christian Universalism is philosphically neccassery for God to be ''Good''.

Absolute nonsense. People who teach this do not know God.

[Loki]

and that divinely inspired men prayed to angels..

No, this is absolutely not true. No men of God prayed to angels. You have, yet again, misappropriated and misrepresented scripture. Don't pray to dead people (this includes so-called "saints", and the "Virgin Mary"). It is idolatry.

[monfret]

It is you who are picking and choosing, buddy. And you're trying to appropriate the Bible verses in isolation, away from their intended meaning, to support your man-made theology. This is really a sorry situation. It's too bad that most people are misled by churches that are actually the haunt of demons, and have nothing to do with God.

If you don't repent from this wrong religion of men that you are following, I am sad to say, you will eventually find out that you were wrong. But it would be too late.

This is one of the finest tricks of the devil... to make people believe that it's okay, they can do what they want, they don't have to obey God... because they can always do it after death, and be saved! But it's a lie from the pits of hell!!

Your responce as expected is emotional.you're a fire and brimstone type.I get it,you think people can't Be good or come to christ without threats of torture.thats sad,because true christianity has so much beauty and fulfillment that threats aren't neccassery to gain converts nor keep members in line.refute lamentations 3:31.Refute the fact aionos means for a time .why did the early church universally accept apokatastasis?they were Greek speakers.why did eternal torment not come into being widely until the Latins mistranslated the scripture?

[monfret]

No, this is absolutely not true. No men of God prayed to angels. You have, yet again, misappropriated and misrepresented scripture. Don't pray to dead people (this included so-called "saints", and the "Virgin Mary"). It is idolatry.

the Holy Spirit inspired David to pray to angels twice in his psalms.Jacob prayed to a angel according to Hosea.

where are your episkopos,presbyters and daikonos if youre the church of Acts???

[Loki]

Your responce as expected is emotional.you're a fire and brimstone type.I get it,you think people can't Be good or come to christ without threats of torture.thats sad,because true christianity has so much beauty and fulfillment that threats aren't neccassery to gain converts nor keep members in line.refute lamentations 3:31.Refute the fact aionos means for a time .why did the early church universally accept apokatastasis?they were Greek speakers.why did eternal torment not come into being widely until the Latins mistranslated the scripture?

Emotional? No, I'm not emotional. Where do you get that from?

I'm not a "fire and brimstone" type, I merely want to believe the truth of God.. not the stories of men.

[monfret]

Emotional? No, I'm not emotional. Where do you get that from?

I'm not a "fire and brimstone" type, I merely want to believe the truth of God.. not the stories of men.

the Old and New Testaments support apokatastasis,especially in its original Greek.1 Corinthians 15:28, When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all

[Loki]

the Holy Spirit inspired David to pray to angels twice in his psalms.Jacob prayed to a angel according to Hosea.

where are your episkopos,presbyters and daikonos if youre the church of Acts???

Nope, David did not pray to angels! I don't know where you got your Bible from... but I think you are misreading and misinterpreting it.

[Loki]

the Old and New Testaments support apokatastasis,especially in its original Greek.1 Corinthians 15:28, When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all

You don't understand apokatastasis correctly. God offers apokatastasis (restoration) to you NOW, but it is conditional! There is no apokatastasis for the devil and his angels. The Bible says the smoke of their torment will rise up forever.

[monfret]

Nope, David did not pray to angels! I don't know where you got your Bible from... but I think you are misreading and misinterpreting it.

Hosea 12:4 Yea, he(Jacob) had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us

Jacob yath7anon lo ''prayed to him''
Praise the LORD, you his angels, you mighty ones who do his bidding, who obey his word. Psalm 103:20

Psalm 148:2 Praise Him, all His angels; Praise Him, all His hosts!

this is praying to angels,he is praying to all his angels and asking them to do a action.

[monfret]

You don't understand apokatastasis correctly. God offers apokatastasis (restoration) to you NOW, but it is conditional! There is no apokatastasis for the devil and his angels. The Bible says the smoke of their torment will rise up forever.

exlain lamentations 3 :31 ?

prove to me from the bible hell is eternal and you can't get out of hell when dead?you keep repeating the same premise without showing me where this is the case biblically.