Red Apple (Kızıl Elma) - Turkish universal sovereignty symbol

[Turul Karom]

What I heard from some Turkologists is that Orkhon inscriptions are in fact a supra-dialect language that was in fact not spoken by tribes/clans and that vernacular Turkic languages were already diverging prior to first Khaganate, even during Xiongnu. Also, although great majority of linguists and etymologists consider that loan words were exclusively transferred from old Turkic to Mongolic languages, it could be that proto-Mongolic words got in large number into proto-Turkic. Mongolic languages have about 30% of alleged words of Turkic origin. Also we know that many proto-Turkic words got into Chinese, where they were sinified and then got back into proto-Turkic attaining new sinified form. Many words went back and forth. Anyhow modern Uyghur is not a descendant of old Uighur. The closest languages to old Turkic as far as I know are Tuvan and Western Yugur. Western Yugur (4000 speakers as of today) even carried on old Turkic numerical system. üch yigirma = 13, alti otuz = 26 and so on.

Even the Hungarian alphabet is a child system of Old Turkic. We have the same linguistic origin for apple (alma) as well.

[Böri]

Even the Hungarian alphabet is a child system of Old Turkic. We have the same linguistic origin for apple (alma) as well.

In Hungarian there are old Turkic words. We see also some Turkic names like Arpad who created the state of Hungary or his grand child's name, Bulcsu, who fought Otto at Lechfeld.

[Yaglakar]

In Hungarian there are old Turkic words. We see also some Turkic names like Arpad who created the state of Hungary or his grand child's name, Bulcsu, who fought Otto at Lechfeld.

For example there is a Hungarian word for fortress 'szombat' which was current in the Middle Ages providing ever more mounting evidence of not only control but also foundation of Kiev by the Khazars who named it Sambat (Sambatas in Roman sources). Sam = high, bat = fortress, Küi=low/harbor - ev = settlement. Khazars called the high ground where the fortress stood as 'Sambat' and lower ground where the harbor was located and the people resided as Küiev.

[Turul Karom]

In Hungarian there are old Turkic words. We see also some Turkic names like Arpad who created the state of Hungary or his grand child's name, Bulcsu, who fought Otto at Lechfeld.

Árpád was the Grand Prince of the Hungarians, who led us into where we are in Europe today. He name is Turkic, as was the first Hungarian King, Vajk, who took the Christianized name István, much like Oghuz Turks took Arab/Islamic names but still have separate Turkic origin names. Byzantine Emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus speaks of Árpád as the "great prince of Turkey" (ὁ μέγας Τουρκίας ἄρχων) when referring to him and Hungary.

Our national anthem speaks of Bendegúz, a Hunnic chieftain (Turkic name origin munčuq, munʒuq, minʒaq, bunčuq, bonʒuq, mončuq), and how God granted his sons a home in the Carpathian, and the flourishing of descendants of Árpád:

Őseinket felhozád

Kárpát szent bércére,

Általad nyert szép hazát

Bendegúznak vére.

S merre zúgnak habjai

Tiszának, Dunának,

Árpád hős magzatjai

Felvirágozának.

[Böri]

For example there is a Hungarian word for fortress 'szombat' which was current in the Middle Ages providing ever more mounting evidence of not only control but also foundation of Kiev by the Khazars who named it Sambat (Sambatas in Roman sources). Sam = high, bat = fortress, Küi=low/harbor - ev = settlement. Khazars called the high ground where the fortress stood as 'Sambat' and lower ground where the harbor was located and the people resided as Küiev.

Yup. It was already talked about in other threads of TA. Kiev was founded by Khazars as trading outpost where Slavic and Viking tribesmen, among others, were coming to trade their products.
Khazars founded it and were levying good tax. They were very rich, so you understand the financial source of the khagan's huge tent made from imported Chinese silk and the golden globe on top of it which symbolized his glory and rule (which the Oghuz eyed to take over, hence origin of kızıl elma phrase).


Claiming the International
by Arlene B. Tickner, David L. Blaney
p.89

[Böri]

Our national anthem speaks of Bendegúz, a Hunnic chieftain (Turkic name origin munčuq, munʒuq, minʒaq, bunčuq, bonʒuq, mončuq), and how God granted his sons a home in the Carpathian, and the flourishing of descendants of Árpád:

Őseinket felhozád

Kárpát szent bércére,

Általad nyert szép hazát

Bendegúznak vére.

S merre zúgnak habjai

Tiszának, Dunának,

Árpád hős magzatjai

Felvirágozának.

Mundzuk is Oghur word, that means Pearl/Jewel. That was also the name of Attila the Hun's father.