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Thread: Blue Division (División Azul): a Spanish unit in the German Nazi army

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    Default Blue Division (División Azul): a Spanish unit in the German Nazi army

    The Blue Division (Spanish: División Azul, German: Blaue Division), officially designated as División Espańola de Voluntarios by the Spanish Army and 250. Infanterie-Division in the German Army was a unit of Spanish volunteers and conscripts who served in the German Army on the Eastern Front of the Second World War.[1] It also included 1,000 men of the Portuguese Legion sent by the Portuguese Estado Novo under the Spanish Flag, many of whom had already fought in the Viriatos during the Spanish Civil War.

    The Blue Division
    among other operations took part in the Siege of Leningrad which is known for its terrible mortality among civilian population. The Blue Division is openly praised in Spain and its name bear some of the streets there:

    https://www.google.ru/search?tbm=isc...&=&=&oq=&gs_l=

    I wonder what makes Spain so different that it can praise a Nazi military unit in this way, unlike, say, Germany.

    Do you think having such a street name is OK or not?
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    Last edited by Rumata; 02-02-2018 at 07:22 PM.
    Do what you should.

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    The Blue Division was the foreigner unity most awarded in the Nazy army. Honor on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    The Blue Division was the foreigner unity most awarded in the Nazy army. Honor on them.
    Do you think that the Nazy army didn't award the German units enough to be glorified now along with the Blue Division?
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Do you think that the Nazy army didn't award the German units enough to be glorified now along with the Blue Division?
    I dont know, I am not German, I am not Nazi and I just can speak in name of the Blue Division, since it is the only that I know deeply.

    A Spanish lefty law from a few years ago (6 or 7 or so) banned all the names of everything related with the regime of Franco, these soldiers included. Streets, statues, squares, monuments, etc... all has been retired. Well, all not, but lefties dont rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I dont know, I am not German, I am not Nazi and I just can speak in name of the Blue Division, since it is the
    only that I know deeply.
    If you are deeply interested in the subject, maybe the following information will be interesting to you. It's the quote from a book about collaborationism. It's on the Russian Wiki page about Blue Division:

    …бургомистр (Новгорода) Морозов погиб от рук испанского солдата из «Голубой дивизии». Власти организовали выдачу молока беременным женщинам. Каждое утро выстраивалась очередь, в которую потихоньку стали пристраиваться солдаты «Голубой дивизии». Они мирно стояли вперемешку с беременными женщинами, не требуя себе лишнего. Получали общую норму и чинно удалялись. Но бургомистр Морозов, возмущённый тем, что молока катастрофически не хватает, как-то пришёл в управу в состоянии среднего алкогольного опьянения и спустил одного из испанцев с лестницы пинком под зад. Пересчитав носом все ступеньки, испанец вскочил и разрядил в городского голову магазин своего пистолета…
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93...8F#cite_note-4
    Shortly: it says that while in Novgorod that scum regularly drank the milk which was supposed to be fed to the pregnant Soviet women.


    A Spanish lefty law from a few years ago (6 or 7 or so) banned all the names of everything related with the regime of Franco, these soldiers included. Streets, statues, squares, monuments, etc... all has been retired. Well, all not, but lefties dont rest.
    At least those lefties are good for something.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    If you are deeply interested in the subject, maybe the following information will be interesting to you. It's the quote from a book about collaborationism. It's on the Russian Wiki page about Blue Division:


    Shortly: it says that while in Novgorod that scum regularly drank the milk which was supposed to be fed to the pregnant Soviet women.[/QUOTE]

    What do you think Soviets did in the Spanish Civil WAR, or in Berlin in 1945? dont cry me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    At least those lefties are good for something.
    Yes, to rule Russia the last 100 years, with its gulags, its poverty, its crimes and its problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    What do you think Soviets did in the Spanish Civil WAR, or in Berlin in 1945? dont cry me.
    Liberating Spanish and German peoples?

    Yes, to rule Russia the last 100 years, with its gulags, its poverty, its crimes and its problems.
    I meant the modern Spanish lefties which you'd mentioned. No need to envy the greatness of Soviet Unions.
    Do what you should.

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    There were many Spaniards in WWII that deserved more honour than this scum. One of them was Enrique Líster, a general who took part in the relief of Leningrad's siege.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_L%C3%ADster#Exile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Liberating Spanish and German peoples?
    Is that your way to say what that scum did in Germany, for example?






    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I meant the modern Spanish lefties which you'd mentioned. No need to envy the greatness of Soviet Unions.
    Yes, I know. I just showed the virtues of being a lefty.

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