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    I suppose it really doesn't matter much.

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    I agree with you.

    In school I was taught that America was divided in 3; South, Central and North. I do believe there are clear cultural differences between South and Central America, enough to make them 2 different regions. However I can also see how the entire continent could be divided only in 2 (South and North) so I have no real objection to the ones that prefer to do that.

    Anyways, I also agree that if anglos colonized Central America, it would be only South and North, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    I agree with you.

    In school I was taught that America was divided in 3; South, Central and North. I do believe there are clear cultural differences between South and Central America, enough to make them 2 different regions. However I can also see how the entire continent could be divided only in 2 (South and North) so I have no real objection to the ones that prefer to do that.

    Anyways, I also agree that if anglos colonized Central America, it would be only South and North, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    I agree with you.

    In school I was taught that America was divided in 3; South, Central and North. I do believe there are clear cultural differences between South and Central America, enough to make them 2 different regions. However I can also see how the entire continent could be divided only in 2 (South and North) so I have no real objection to the ones that prefer to do that.

    Anyways, I also agree that if anglos colonized Central America, it would be only South and North, definitely.
    It was less clear before when you take into account Central America originally is an American concept which was used for the bananization and control of trade. Central America was never a fixed geographical region.

    All of Central America was formerly either part of Mexico or part of Colombia. The breakaway Federal Republic of Central America was created, while Panama was directly extracted from Colombia to create and monopolize the channel.



    Central America is just some artificial bullshit that was used to justify the creation of many useless, futureless banana states.

    "Gran Colombia"

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    Before Columbus North America to the north of Rio Grande had only between 1/9 and 1/16 of the entire population of the Americas (depending on estimate). The remaining 8/9 up to 15/16 lived in what later became Latin America. Distribution of Native population in 1492:

    Variant with 1/9 of Amerindians to the north of Rio Grande:

    1) USA and Canada (to the north of Rio Grande) - 11-10%

    2) Mexico and Mesoamerica / Central America - 39-45%
    3) Andean (western) part of South America - 36-34%

    4) All other regions of South America - 12-10%
    5) The Caribbean region (West Indies) - 2-1%

    Variant with 1/16 of Amerindians north of Rio Grande:

    1) USA and Canada (to the north of Rio Grande) - 6-5%

    2) Mexico and Mesoamerica / Central America - 41-47%
    3) Western (Andean) part of South America - 38-36%

    4) All other regions of South America - 13-11%
    5) The Caribbean region (West Indies) - 2-1%

    ^^^
    As you can see, between 3/4 and 4/5 of Amerindian population lived in two regions: Mesoamerica (from Mexico to Panama) and in the western (Andean) part of South America (from Ecuador to Chile).

    Today Amerindian ancestry is most prevalent in the same areas, where population density and size of population were the largest back in 1492. And it has nothing to do with who colonized them, Iberians or Anglos.

    Another thing is that most of post-1820 European immigration went to North America:


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    How do you imagine Anglos colonizing Mexico?:

    Even with more European immigrants, there would still be millions of Natives left. Look for example at South Africa (colonized by Afrikaners and later by Anglos) - Blacks and Coloureds (mixed race people of Boer, British, native African and Asian ancestry) vastly outnumber Whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I disagree.

    Central America is the same as Mesoamerica, and this area was very distinct already before Columbus. So the existence of this term has nothing to do with post-1492 history. At least not in Poland (we always talk about Pre-Columbian Central America and it includes Mexico).

    Meso means Middle, Intermediate, or Central: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerica

    Also, even if Central America was settled by Anglo-Saxons, it would still be populated by Mestizos today.

    But these Mestizos would be 50% Amerindian + 50% North European (instead of 50% South European).
    I doubt that Central America would be mestizo if it were colonized by Anglos. Anglos used a lot of slave labor, Central America would be full of descendants of slaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by skain View Post
    Anglos used a lot of slave labor
    That's not true.

    Spain and Portugal transported much more slaves to Latin America than Anglos did to their colonies. As this map shows, only 5% of all slaves went to English colonies, and for example 35% to Brazil:



    Another more detailed map:

    http://www.slavevoyages.org/static/i...ro-maps/09.jpg



    Edit:

    Okay that includes also a lot of slaves transported to British Caribbean:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    That's not true.

    Spain and Portugal transported much more slaves to Latin America than Anglos did to their colonies. As this map shows, only 5% of all slaves went to English colonies, and for example 35% to Brazil:



    Another more detailed map:

    http://www.slavevoyages.org/static/i...ro-maps/09.jpg



    Edit:

    Okay that includes also a lot of slaves transported to British Caribbean:

    It says "60% West Indies". That's mostly Anglo territory. Then you also have to take into account French Nigga places like New Orleans and Haiti.

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    Belize was an Anglo colony by the way, and look at its population today, mostly Mestizos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups

    Most Belizeans are of multiracial descent. About 52.9% are Mestizo, 25.9% Creole, 11.3% Maya, 6.1.% Garifuna, 3.9% East Indian, 3.6% Mennonites, 1.2% White, 1% Asian, 1.2% Other and 0.3% Unknown.[2]

    In the case of Europeans, most are descendants of Spanish and British colonial settlers, whether pure-blooded or mixed with each other. Most Spanish left the nation just after it was taken by the British colonists.

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