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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    That is not what you said though.

    British Government =/= BBC
    I didn't imply the two were one in the same. This is a total strawman. But the BBC is a public entity, no? Is it unreasonable to assume that opinion with the station and the government overlap? It certainly seems to.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    Oh really. They just are the most highly educated group.
    Well, whatever. Citing a study about them being the most "educated" doesn't mean a hill of beans next to decades of IQ studies. A lower IQ population hurts your country. And negros, Afro-Carribeans (still negroes), AND AFRICANS AS IN NORTHERN AFRICANS on average have a lower IQ than native British stock IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE THEY COME FROM.

    Ask yourself: why is this news regarding their "education levels" so widely disseminated but not the studies people like Arthur Jensen and Philippe Rushton do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    UK Africans =/= UK Blacks and UK =/= US, and yes they probably should stay home but welcome to globalisation.
    Of course. Liberal language (as in the insistence on calling blacks "Africans" in modern PC terms) makes this conversation a bit confusing at times. But at the end of the day, I still think saying they are "the most educated" is globalist propaganda given what we know about darker peoples' IQs relative to Euro IQs.
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    What? Educated Africans migrate, it is a well-known phenomenon called the 'brain drain', and this is why something more than Social Darwinism and rescinding the Welfare State is required.

    New jobs are being snapped up by educated migrants in a globalised economy, and their home countries are being made poorer.

    Even in the case of Europe:

    My old Portuguese cleaner came to work in the UK leaving a career in journalism behind.

    £7=00 an hour in 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalwolf View Post
    The best solution is to just cancel all social welfare programs. Make the lazy immigrants work to try and survive like everyone else. it would instill a social-Darwinist type of society until nature balanced itself out again. Survival of the fittest.
    This was the first irrelevant post which heralded the arrival of all the others.

    So fed up with retards who know sweet nothing about my country talking utter bollocks about it.

    To a man whose only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyn View Post
    So you've gone from favouring social Darwinism and 'survival of the fittest' to upholding the welfare state for a group of your choice because they are 'incapable of supporting themselves'?
    My initial stance hasn't changed, but I said if I could support one group, yes it would be the elderly. Too many people are on public support because of drug addictions and general laziness and I would feel no need or moral conscience to support them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    This was the first irrelevant post which heralded the arrival of all the others.

    So fed up with retards who know sweet nothing about my country talking utter bollocks about it.

    To a man whose only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.
    Sorry, but you're the dumbass if you gathered that my post was narrowly directed at your country. Why is it that most limeys are so infantile and can't handle alternative opinions...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalwolf View Post
    Sorry, but you're the dumbass if you gathered that my post was narrowly directed at your country. Why is it that most limeys are so infantile and can't handle alternative opinions...?
    That is bollocks and you know it.

    This thread is about the UK, and what Frank Field MP said. :nod

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    What? Educated Africans migrate, it is a well-known phenomenon called the 'brain drain',
    Last I checked, the Negro/Carribean/African brain wasn't helping you guys too much. Quite the contrary, actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    and this is why something more than Social Darwinism and rescinding the Welfare State is required.

    New jobs are being snapped up by educated migrants in a globalised economy, and their home countries are being made poorer.
    Their countries weren't doing so hot in the first place. In sub-Saharan Africa, a person with an American Negro's (avg) IQ level leaving would be considered "brain drain" for that region. And I don't see what's so bad about Social Darwinism if the U.K. along with other Western countries continue to live under a materialist neo-liberal system. Seems fairer than forcing some people to work for other people's livelihoods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    Even in the case of Europe:

    My old Portuguese cleaner came to work in the UK leaving a career in journalism behind.

    £7=00 an hour in 2003.
    I don't see how this is at all relevant to our exchange. I'm familiar with the concept of brain drain. I still don't think the study you provided amounts to much next to the other considerations I already enumerated. I'm just weighing the evidence.
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