whoa are the modern day iberians descended from??

[Gota_type_]

[QUOTE=Viriatus91;6841418]

Most people in Spain (and Portugal) get zero % northafrican in 23andme.

Just a few get less than 1% and it is not probably related with AlAndalus at all.



I am genuinely curious to see how I found find out if I have any ancestry that would be related to North Africa, but the DNA calculators seem iffy at best. I have always been more interested in genealogy as it shows me a more accurate picture of my history than DNA so forgive me because I am an amateur at DNA. I also question it, because Gedmatch shows me plotting closer to Eastern Spain (Valencia, Aragon) in most calculators rather than Portugal, I could only trace a small part of my family history beyond the late XVI century. The one 7th great-grandparent I trace back and had an ancestor in Aragon, but even he is only from the XIV century.

Regarding Gedmatch, K36 says I have 3.25% North African and 0.99% Arabian. I compared this with my Anglo-American friend whose ancestors are all from Northern Europe, and he has 0% for each. Is there a goodway to find any recent North African ancestry? Interestingly, this Anglo friend of mine has 0.63% Northeast African on K13 and 0.48% on K15 whereas I am only 0.16% and 0.32%, respectively.

Getmatch K36 is a prehistoric tool (7-8 years ago in genetics is prehistory), and in it, all Europeans get non-White blood. NorthEuropeans get Asian, Arabic, Red Sea, SouthAsian, and others.

It is obvious that with more components is more difficult to verify the validy of the tool. If there was a K72 all people in the world will get all components since in the end we descend from prehistoric homoSapiens.

[gixajo]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[renaissance12]

Your cousins, don't worry, we don't forget.

And we don't forget your black african blood.. Why don't you accept your s.s.african background ?

[PaleoEuropean]

Who is anyone descendent from? We are all mutts our ancestors even got down and dirty with Neanderthals and Denisovans. Life is a lie and we are all hairless monkeys in the matrix floating through space on a rock.

[Kamal900]

You're here because of your insecurities. A characteristic of your personality disorder. As is typical of someone who suffers from a personality disorder you chimp out over everything.

Even you can't be so far gone as to not see your behavior isn't normal. Who spends years going on about Spaniards and pics posted of them on a forum? Most of the time people post a swarthy Spaniard only to see you chimp out. All of this defines your free time.

Exactly, rofl. People love to troll Spaniards just to get his reaction.

[Kamal900]

Who is anyone descendent from? We are all mutts our ancestors even got down and dirty with Neanderthals and Denisovans. Life is a lie and we are all hairless monkeys in the matrix floating through space on a rock.

Well. It isn't untrue to say that Humans and other apes are monkeys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catarrhini

[Cristiano viejo]

And we don't forget your black african blood.. Why don't you accept your s.s.african background ?

ok, Arab.

Exactly, rofl. People love to troll Spaniards just to get his reaction.

Arab, ok.

[renaissance12]

ok, Arab.


Arab, ok.

Arabs are not so black as your african ancestors who came from s.s.africa..

Ok.. you are right.. only some black africans were your ancestors..

What is bad is the fact that your black african ancestors did not contribute to civilization.. So you can be proud only about you african-arabic ancestors..

[Cristiano viejo]

Arabs are not so black as your african ancestors who came from s.s.africa..

Ok.. you are right.. only some black africans were your ancestors..

What is bad is the fact that your black african ancestors did not contribute to civilization.. So you can be proud only about you african-arabic ancestors..

That is why Italians score amazing amounts of Middle Eastern blood, eh Arab?