whoa are the modern day iberians descended from??

[Adamm]

E-V257

E-V257 = E-L19

E-L19 = father of E-M81 (Berber marker)

Have you tested downstream for E-V257? Your haplogroup is from North-West Africa.

[Luso]

[QUOTE=Viriatus91;6841418]

Most people in Spain (and Portugal) get zero % northafrican in 23andme.

Just a few get less than 1% and it is not probably related with AlAndalus at all.



I am genuinely curious to see how I found find out if I have any ancestry that would be related to North Africa, but the DNA calculators seem iffy at best. I have always been more interested in genealogy as it shows me a more accurate picture of my history than DNA so forgive me because I am an amateur at DNA. I also question it, because Gedmatch shows me plotting closer to Eastern Spain (Valencia, Aragon) in most calculators rather than Portugal, I could only trace a small part of my family history beyond the late XVI century. The one 7th great-grandparent I trace back and had an ancestor in Aragon, but even he is only from the XIV century.

Regarding Gedmatch, K36 says I have 3.25% North African and 0.99% Arabian. I compared this with my Anglo-American friend whose ancestors are all from Northern Europe, and he has 0% for each. Is there a goodway to find any recent North African ancestry? Interestingly, this Anglo friend of mine has 0.63% Northeast African on K13 and 0.48% on K15 whereas I am only 0.16% and 0.32%, respectively.

Feel free to make a thread with your results or something. I've done it in the past-- you can see mine in my signature.

Viriato (Bras), Tagus, and the other Portuguese members (including me) can help you interpret them. You most likely have pretty typical results. Having eastern spain in proximity doesn't really say much, I relate with that myself on Gedmatch calculators. I usually get Castille, then Portugal, then Murcia, or Valencia. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Viriatus91]

E-V257 = E-L19

E-L19 = father of E-M81 (Berber marker)

Have you tested downstream for E-V257? Your haplogroup is from North-West Africa.

No, how would one test downstream?

[gixajo]

No, how would one test downstream?

http://www.yseq.net/index.php?cPath=27

[Adamm]

No, how would one test downstream?

There are many ways, if I were you I would do the E-L19 panel (I also did this):

http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=21196

And if you rather have more money to spend you could do a WGS (whole genome sequence) which costs around 300$, you can also upload your results to Yfull when you've done that (I also did this).

Also if you havent tried yet:

Please upload your raw dna to this website and check your results:

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

That is why you are here, Franco.

I study the mentally ill. You clearly have a borderline personality disorder. You react with hysteria over perceived slights (and almost everything is seen as a slight).

[JerryS.]

wouldn't it be a worthy exercise to have the members here that are Spaniards or Portuguese (not mixed in any fashion) to post their Eurogenes, Dodecad and MDLP numbers here? wouldn't that be a fair way to answer the original question?

[Cristiano viejo]

I study the mentally ill. You clearly have a borderline personality disorder. You react with hysteria over perceived slights (and almost everything is seen as a slight).

Then that is my excuse. What is the your, Franco?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Then that is my excuse. What is the your, Franco?

You're here because of your insecurities. A characteristic of your personality disorder. As is typical of someone who suffers from a personality disorder you chimp out over everything.

Even you can't be so far gone as to not see your behavior isn't normal. Who spends years going on about Spaniards and pics posted of them on a forum? Most of the time people post a swarthy Spaniard only to see you chimp out. All of this defines your free time.

[Cristiano viejo]

You're here because of your insecurities. A characteristic of your personality disorder. As is typical of someone who suffers from a personality disorder you chimp out over everything.

Even you can't be so far gone as to not see your behavior isn't normal. Who spends years going on about Spaniards and pics posted of them on a forum? Most of the time people post a swarthy Spaniard only to see you chimp out. All of this defines your free time.

hahaha that is how your little Galician brain works... if people post swarthy Spaniards, they only do it to see me chimp out... if I post non swrathy Spaniards is just because I am insecure

Go to find any girlfriend in real life, motherfucker. Any Uruguayan will be waiting you sitting in your sofa watching the Mets, loser