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I dont deny any of these crimes, however i do think numbers are exaggerated. But this is not one sided, action demands reaction. Croatia knew that Serbs would rebelled after you revoked our right to be "constitinual ethnicity". Serbophobia was increasing in Croatia at huge rate, and may i ask , if you Croats had a right to secede, Bosniaks had right to secede, Albanians had right to secede, why werent us Serbs treated the same way? NDH might have been independent only in name but it was fully Croatian state.
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It's hard to know exact information, since little of the camp is left except individual testimonies. I have no doubt it was horrible place.
Btw, my grandfather was from first town near to the camp, and he was in prison in Jasenovac for 3 month during WW2 (it was jail too, not just concentratuion camp).
He didn't really liked to talk about it, but he said executions happen mostly during night time and far from eyes of other prisoners. He is deceased now, so I can't really ask him more about details what was happening there.
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Because we were aggressors who attacked Croatia to pursue our genocidal project of Greater Serbia? For being responsible for deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Croats in WW1 (we started WW1, remember) WW2 and 90s. , for suppressing and trying to serbify Croatian culture?
For inventing Turbofolk?
For causing hundreds of billions of dollars of damage to Croatias industry and infrastructure?
After all we did to Croats we should be glad to still exist as a country and they didnt chase our Traktorijada all the way to Belgrade.
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Well, Franjo did such controversial move after Serbian rebellions started . It wasn't exactly wise move, but it was war. He was certanly happy to have Serbs out of Croatia in the end, but he surely didn't plan to exterminate them. Croatia was attacked, not Serbia.
Problem with Serbian secession is that it was simply geographically impossible, they occupied part of Croatia too far from Serbia and vitaly important for any basic state functioning. New constituation did guarantee them all citizen rights.
Now, it is clear to me such rural population was quite suspicious of Croats, but surely Serbian media machinery about new NDH feed that irrational fears.
Let's not forget, Slovenia and Croatia offered plan to keep Yugoslavia as confederate state, which Serbs didn't want to accept. The only ones to blame for it's bloody disolution are they. what else can I say ?
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Figure I gave is for Jasenovac only. I have very reliable figures for WW2 loses on territories on NDH for Croats and Serbs, supported by verified data (book: Administrative Science, Robert Blažević, Law school of University in Rijeka, 2015)
It's from my old school book. I can list all reference in the footnotes, it is data not made by our Professor (who is of partizan orientation btw, he just cited it)
Serbs: total number living NDH (2 million and 100 tousand), total war victims 330 000, out of which 82 000 as partizan fighters, 23 000 as quislings and collaboracionists, and 217 000 as victims of nazi/ustaša-collaborationist terror.
Croats: total number living in NDH (3 million and 400 tousand), total war victims 178 000, out of which 46 000 as partizan fighters, 65 000 as victims of četnik, nazi and ustaša terror, and 70 000 as quislings and collaborationists
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