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    Бугарскиот претседател Румен Радев утре ќе ја посети Македонија
    на февруари 15, 2018

    Бугарскиот прeтседател Румен Рaдев утре доаѓа во официјална посета на Македонија во придружба на двајца митрополити на Бугарската православна црква, Николај и Кипријан, коj е претседател на синодалната комисија за преговори со МПЦ, а Пловдискиот митрополит Николај е член на истата комисија.

    Според агендата утре Радев ќе се сретне со претседателот Ѓорге Иванов. Нема официјална потврда дали ќе има и работна средба на комисиите меѓу двете цркви, но е извесно дека бугарските владици ќе се сретнат со членови на Синодот на Македонската црква

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Бугарскиот претседател Румен Радев утре ќе ја посети Македонија
    на февруари 15, 2018

    Бугарскиот прeтседател Румен Рaдев утре доаѓа во официјална посета на Македонија во придружба на двајца митрополити на Бугарската православна црква, Николај и Кипријан, коj е претседател на синодалната комисија за преговори со МПЦ, а Пловдискиот митрополит Николај е член на истата комисија.

    Според агендата утре Радев ќе се сретне со претседателот Ѓорге Иванов. Нема официјална потврда дали ќе има и работна средба на комисиите меѓу двете цркви, но е извесно дека бугарските владици ќе се сретнат со членови на Синодот на Македонската црква

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    А јесте ли ви имали раније проблема?

    Какви су били односи Бугарске Цркве са Македонском Црквом раније? Јели ово сад одједном дошла идеја за уједињење?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    А јесте ли ви имали раније проблема?

    Какви су били односи Бугарске Цркве са Македонском Црквом раније? Јели ово сад одједном дошла идеја за уједињење?
    The Serbian Church usurped the eparchies of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia when it acquired Macedonia by force in 1913. They did this uncanonically. Macedonian Orthodox Christians came under the jurisdiction of the Serbian Church from then on. We have since then been trying to separate from the Serbian Church, declaring autocephality in 1967, which remains unrecognized due to Serbian objections. Well, we have now decided to go back to the source of the problem, and seek a solution via the Bulgarian Church, since we were taken away from them illegally by the Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Serbian Church usurped the eparchies of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia when it acquired Macedonia by force in 1913. They did this uncanonically. Macedonian Orthodox Christians came under the jurisdiction of the Serbian Church from then on. We have since then been trying to separate from the Serbian Church, declaring autocephality in 1967, which remains unrecognized due to Serbian objections. Well, we have now decided to go back to the source of the problem, and seek a solution via the Bulgarian Church, since we were taken away from them illegally by the Serbs.
    Actually our churches shifted from one to another Orthodox church. None of them were Macedonian except some local priests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    Actually our churches shifted from one to another Orthodox church. None of them were Macedonian except some local priests.
    The Exarchate re-established by the Sultan in 1870 extended over present-day northern Bulgaria (Moesia), Thrace without the Vilayet of Adrianople, as well as over north-eastern Macedonia. After the Christian population of the bishoprics of Skopje and Ohrid voted in 1874 overwhelmingly in favour of joining the Exarchate (Skopje by 91%, Ohrid by 97%), the Bulgarian Exarchate became in control of the whole of Vardar and Pirin Macedonia. The Exarchate was also represented in the whole of southern Macedonia and the Vilayet of Adrianople by vicars.
    The immediate effect of the partition of Ottoman empire during the Balkan Wars was the anti-Bulgarian campaign in areas under Serbian and Greek rule. The Serbians expelled Exarchist churchmen and teachers and closed Bulgarian schools and churches (affecting the standing of as many as 641 schools and 761 churches). Thousands of Bulgarian refugees left for Bulgaria, joining a still larger stream from devastated Aegean Macedonia, where the Greeks burned Kukush, the center of Bulgarian politics and culture, as well as much of Serres and Drama. Bulgarian language (including the Macedonian dialects) was prohibited, and its surreptitious use, whenever detected, was ridiculed or punished. [Ivo Banac, [http://promacedonia.org/en/ib/i_banac.html "The Macedoine"] in "The National Question in Yugoslavia. Origins, History, Politics", pp. 307-328, Cornell University Press, 1984

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    Tsar Simeon II - It is normal for BOC and MOC to hold joint church service

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