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    Default Do you consider the Maltese to be Semites?

    There was a thread here regarding if they considered Ashkenazi Jews to be Semites. Many said no since their native tongue is Yiddish and they're mixed with Europeans whereas others said that yes since they're of Jewish/Semitic origin. So similar case here. The Maltese speak a Semitic language, but are of Sicilian origin. Personally, I don't see the Maltese as Semites since their recent origin is non-Semitic (Sicilian) and I also don't think they self-identify as Semitic. I don't know how much Semitic admixture they have, but it's about the same as Sicilians if it exists in any significant quantity so it wouldn't affect my opinion on whether I view them as Semitic or not. However, if the Maltese were to self-identity as Semitic, I wouldn't think they were crazy to do so.

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    Nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    There was a thread here regarding if they considered Ashkenazi Jews to be Semites. Many said no since their native tongue is Yiddish and they're mixed with Europeans whereas others said that yes since they're of Jewish/Semitic origin. So similar case here. The Maltese speak a Semitic language, but are of Sicilian origin. Personally, I don't see the Maltese as Semites since their recent origin is non-Semitic (Sicilian) and I also don't think they self-identify as Semitic. I don't know how much Semitic admixture they have, but it's about the same as Sicilians if it exists in any significant quantity so it wouldn't affect my opinion on whether I view them as Semitic or not. However, if the Maltese were to self-identity as Semitic, I wouldn't think they were crazy to do so.
    Fixed that

    Also, less than half of the words in Maltese are of Semitic origin, although the grammatical structure and most of the most common words are.

    I don't see them as Semites, I see them as wayward Sicilians. I hope they find a nice nightclub to get their photo taken in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Fixed that

    Also, less than half of the words in Maltese are of Semitic origin, although the grammatical structure and most of the most common words are.

    I don't see them as Semites, I see them as wayward Sicilians. I hope they find a nice nightclub to get their photo taken in.
    It could be cool if they made Sicilian their national language and replaced Maltese (Sicilian Arabic) with Sicilian, since it's part of their heritage. But I guess that is off topic and better for another thread.

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    I didn't think so, but IDK.

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    Maltese are more Semitic than Ashkenazi Jews linguistically and genetically. They're close to Sicilians but with additional Semitic admixture and they speak a Semitic language. Culturally they're mostly European though.

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    How many of them are from the UK? It was a UK procession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Maltese are more Semitic than Ashkenazi Jews linguistically and genetically. They're close to Sicilians but with additional Semitic admixture and they speak a Semitic language. Culturally they're mostly European though.
    They don't have additional Semitic admixture. They migrated to Malta after Sicily got linguistically Arabized.

    Most Maltese have European Y-DNA whereas most Ashkenazi Jews have Semitic Y-DNA. From an autosomal POV, I think they are roughly equal. The Maltese are genetically identical to Sicilians and I don't think the Sicilians are genetically more Semitic than Ashkenazi Jews are. The Maltese are probably a little less Semitic than most Ashkenazi Jews, but the difference probably isn't significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    How many of them are from the UK? It was a UK procession.
    The question is just regarding ethnic Maltese people, not anyone that lives in Malta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    They don't have additional Semitic admixture. They migrated to Malta after Sicily got linguistically Arabized.
    They do, from results and plots i've seen they cluster slightly south of Sicilians.

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