Northern Cyprus Occupation

[Bosniensis]

Minoans were J2

Ah yees.. Minioans, sound similar so I mistaken them for Mycenaean.

Do we have graves from Mycene?

[Thanas Django]

Baklava is awesome!

Do Greeks have anything similar?

We have our own variants. I think the best baklava is made in Lebanon.

[catgeorge]

Ah yees.. Minioans, sound similar so I mistaken them for Mycenaean.

Do we have graves from Mycene?

Too many different haplogroups to focus on just one to call it authentically Greek. As I said in Seklo we found I in Minoans we found J2, Myceneans would have carried both J2 and I and bought with them likely R1 but R1 would not have made an impact on Greece until later...like ~1500 BC when the Greek language was fully established

[catgeorge]

Caves in Greece

A total of 32 binary polymorphisms were typed to define 24 informative haplogroups. Figure 2 illustrates the Y-chromosome haplogroup phylogenetic relationships and frequencies for the observed haplogroups in the three Greek regions and Crete. In the Greek data overall, the most frequent haplogroups include E3b1a2-V13 (28%), R1b3-M269 (13%), R1a1-M17 (11%), I2a-P37 (9.0%), J2b-M12 (6%). In Crete, the most frequent haplogroups are R1b3-M269 (17%), G2-P15 (11%), J2a1-DYS413*(9.0%) and J2a1h-M319 (9.0%).

he Sesklo/Dimini and Lerna/Franchthi Cave regional data do not significantly differ from each other in the Y haplogroup frequencies. Inspection of Figure 2 results shows that Crete has a high frequency of haplogroup J2a-M410 (25.9%) with Lerna/Franchthi Cave (14.1%) and Sesklo/Dimini (8.8%) having intermediate frequencies of J2a. The northernmost sample-site, Nea Nikomedeia, has the lowest frequency of J2a-M410 (3.6%). The distinctive short 6 repeat motif allele pattern (Schrack et al., 2006) was detected in 1.8% of the samples from Nea Nikomedeia, 3.5% from Sesklo/Dimini and 1.8% from Lerna/Franchthi Cave and 2.6% of the samples from Crete, and specifically, 3.8% of the samples from Heraklion prefecture in Crete containing the IN site of Knossos. Haplogroup J2b-M12, the offsetting companion clade of J2a-M410, shows a trend of decreasing frequency from north to south, from 7% and 8.8% at Nea Nikomedeia and Sesklo, respectively, to 1.8% at Lerna/Franchthi Cave and 3.1% in Crete. E3b1a2-V13 is more frequent in Greece than in Crete ranging from 14.0% at Nea Nikomedeia, 35.1% at Sesklo/Dimini, 35.1% at Lerna/Franchthi Cave, to 6.7% in Crete. Furthermore the M78 defined chromosomes are almost entirely characterized by the V13 polymorphism in both Greece and Crete. Of the previously reported 26 M78 derived chromosomes in Turkey (Cinnioğlu et al., 2004), 22 carried the V13 polymorphism. A reanalysis of 26 M78 Y chromosomes from the Egyptian delta showed that none carried the derived marker V13 (Luis et al., 2004).

[Bosniensis]

^ can you reupload image cause it's forbidden to us to see it



Edit: It's ok now.

[Xedra]

The turks can move back to turkey?
They forced themselves into a eu country

Not at all. Turkey had a moral duty to protect Turks in Cyprus from the massacres perpetrated by greek cypriot terrorist organization, EOKA.
Cyprus was not an EU member at all in 1974 and after until 2004. EU took southern cyprus in knowing they have unresolved border problems.

[Thanas Django]

Not at all. Turkey had a moral duty to protect Turks in Cyprus from the massacres perpetrated by greek cypriot terrorist organization, EOKA.
Cyprus was not an EU member at all in 1974 and after until 2004. EU took southern cyprus in knowing they have unresolved border problems.

Nazi Germany also had a moral obligation to defend their borders against Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

The E.U. accepted the entirety of the internationally recognised Republic of Cyprus, the Northern illegaly occupied part of Cyprus is currently suspended because of the presence of foreign illegal troops stationed there. Having said that, Turkish Cypriots and not illegal foreign settlers may come to the South and claim a European ID and passport with which they can enjoy E.U. privileges.

[Crn Volk]

Bump

[Renekton]

Turkey should withdraw the troops from the island. It's an occupation