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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
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    Being Greek is an experienced grounded into nation, not consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Have Arabs conducted a wide range research on this subject when you are capable to answer such questions?

    Imagine ME debating about dispute between Arab Tribes?

    Would that be funny to you?

    That's how funny are your comments regarding Macedonia issue.
    It's called logic and common sense, and the people that worked on archaeology and history on the Macedonian issue are westerners which they all conclude that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks.


    Hell, we don't have a word for Macedonian in the middle east, and we simply called Alexander and his men as "Yunaneyoon" which literally means Greeks. I mean, who were the founders of the Seleucid empire, the Ptolemaic Kingdom and etc? They were founded by Alexander's generals, and they too were Greeks. Stop this stop nonsense in stealing the heritage of others. It's just as pathetic as those Afrocentric Blacks claiming that they were "Kangz n Shieet" of Egypt and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanas Django View Post
    You should respect more the people who gave you your religion.
    I am not like Christians who have invested billions of $ in Israel cause they believe Israel has something to do with their religion.

    I believe because of God not because of Arabs


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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    It's called logic and common sense, and the people that worked on archaeology and history on the Macedonian issue are westerners which they all conclude that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks.


    Hell, we don't have a word for Macedonian in the middle east, and we simply called Alexander and his men as "Yunaneyoon" which literally means Greeks. I mean, who were the founders of the Seleucid empire, the Ptolemaic Kingdom and etc? They were founded by Alexander's generals, and they too were Greeks. Stop this stop nonsense in stealing the heritage of others. It's just as pathetic as those Afrocentric Blacks claiming that they were "Kangz n Shieet" of Egypt and beyond.
    Aha

    1. Migrations?

    2. Occupations?

    3. Genocides?

    4. Cultural Conversions?


    Have you taken all those 4 into conclusion when you talk about "Yunaneyoon" ?

    Do you understand that before Ottoman Conquest of Greece, entire Southern Part of Greece was 50 years under French occupation?

    Do you understand that Athens was at some point had Catholic religion?

    Do you know that Germanic people ruled Greece from 1204-1261? Migrations?

    What happened to that MASSIVE African-Hellenic people when Arabs came to Africa?

    Do you know that the most dominant Haplogrup in Greece is AFRICAN?

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    You think that Greece was populated by the same people for the last 4000 years?

    There is High probability that in Greece we have Hellenized Africans while Hellenes are speaking some other language and have been assimilated
    into different culture like ALBANIAN for example or Slavic or Turkish <--- maybe those people are Ancient inhabitants of Greece while as I said
    modern inhabitants of hellada are Hellenized immigrants from various Hellenic colonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I notice many Macedonian surnames end in -ski like the Polish -ski/Ukranian and Russian -sky. Other Slavic surnames in the Balkans don't end that way.

    Alex Volkanovski had me thinking about that lately. He's a killer.

    [video=youtube;k7hLLyFEb-s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    I meant to ask why that was the case but it was late and I was half asleep. So why is that the case? Or is it just coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I meant to ask why that was the case but it was late and I was half asleep. So why is that the case? Or is it just coincidence?
    Never mind. I found out on my own.

    In 1944, the Yugoslav Communist Party introduced a plan to give all Macedonian surnames the suffix -ski (feminine -ska), allegedly to weaken their sense of identity. If someone refused to change their name, they were not entitled to any benefits from Socialist Macedonia. Many accepted this in order to conform to the new ideology but others, in particular the communists, were willing to risk imprisonment and even execution in order to retain their own ethnic identity. Some Macedonian surnames did originally end in -ski (feminine -ska) but only those derived from an adjective, trade or place of origin. Most had the endings -ov/-ova or -ev/-eva. Surnames in the Serbian area were given the suffix -ich, first names and surnames in Aegean Macedonia were usually given the -is or -os suffixes.

    https://tekeli.li/onomastikon/Europe.../Surnames.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Aha

    1. Migrations?

    2. Occupations?

    3. Genocides?

    4. Cultural Conversions?


    Have you taken all those 4 into conclusion when you talk about "Yunaneyoon" ?

    Do you understand that before Ottoman Conquest of Greece, entire Southern Part of Greece was 50 years under French occupation?

    Do you understand that Athens was at some point had Catholic religion?

    Do you know that Germanic people ruled Greece from 1204-1261? Migrations?

    What happened to that MASSIVE African-Hellenic people when Arabs came to Africa?

    Do you know that the most dominant Haplogrup in Greece is AFRICAN?

    ------------------------------------------------------

    You think that Greece was populated by the same people for the last 4000 years?

    There is High probability that in Greece we have Hellenized Africans while Hellenes are speaking some other language and have been assimilated
    into different culture like ALBANIAN for example or Slavic or Turkish <--- maybe those people are Ancient inhabitants of Greece while as I said
    modern inhabitants of hellada are Hellenized immigrants from various Hellenic colonies.
    Yes, we do, and we have genetic evidence to support the claim that the genetic continuity between the ancient and modern Greeks is strong. See the lates genetic study on the ancient Mycenaean for proof. Modern Greeks cluster the closest to other Southern European peoples than to Slavic peoples of Southern Europe and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I notice many Macedonian surnames end in -ski like the Polish -ski/Ukranian and Russian -sky. Other Slavic surnames in the Balkans don't end that way.

    Alex Volkanovski had me thinking about that lately. He's a killer.

    Alexander 'the great' Volkanovski is half Macedonian and half Greek but his Macedonian ethnic identity is much stronger.

    Why do Macedonian surnames end in 'ski'. They used to be predominately 'ev' or 'ov' ending. But after the nazi Bulgarian occupation of Vardar Macedonia in the 40's, Macedonians decided to add the 'ski' ending to the names of people, as a way to distance ourselves from Bulgarians. But still today there are plenty of people with 'ev' and 'ov' ending surnames.

    My surname ends in 'ski' today, but it used to end in 'ov'.

    Id also like to add that 'ski' ending surnames did exist way before the 40's. Our revolutionary Jane Sandanski is one example. It's just that 'ski' ending surnames weren't as popular as they are today, but still existed nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Aha

    1. Migrations?

    2. Occupations?

    3. Genocides?

    4. Cultural Conversions?


    Have you taken all those 4 into conclusion when you talk about "Yunaneyoon" ?

    Do you understand that before Ottoman Conquest of Greece, entire Southern Part of Greece was 50 years under French occupation?

    Do you understand that Athens was at some point had Catholic religion?

    Do you know that Germanic people ruled Greece from 1204-1261? Migrations?

    What happened to that MASSIVE African-Hellenic people when Arabs came to Africa?

    Do you know that the most dominant Haplogrup in Greece is AFRICAN?

    ------------------------------------------------------

    You think that Greece was populated by the same people for the last 4000 years?

    There is High probability that in Greece we have Hellenized Africans while Hellenes are speaking some other language and have been assimilated
    into different culture like ALBANIAN for example or Slavic or Turkish <--- maybe those people are Ancient inhabitants of Greece while as I said
    modern inhabitants of hellada are Hellenized immigrants from various Hellenic colonies.

    Lol, illitterate ottoman convert, descendant of slavs( slaves?) who sold their faith for turkish nobility titles.Why do you ignore the fact that many places in Greece have lower E1b(which you yourself consider as African) than Bosnia, Serbia etc?
    Why do you ignore the fact that E1b originated somewhere in between Thrace(modern Bulgaria) and Northern FYROM according to STR variation?anyway stfu and keep digging into your dna as only remnant of your former non-turkish identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Lol, illitterate ottoman convert, descendant of slavs( slaves?) who sold their faith for turkish nobility titles.Why do you ignore the fact that many places in Greece have lower E1b(which you yourself consider as African) than Bosnia, Serbia etc?
    Why do you ignore the fact that E1b originated somewhere in between Thrace(modern Bulgaria) and Northern FYROM according to STR variation?anyway stfu and keep digging into your dna as only remnant of your former non-turkish identity.
    E1b originated in Africa, 90% of Africa is E1b that's not a rocket science.

    E1b people are Hellenized Africans (Philhellenes) who arrived to mainland Greece in smaller numbers before 6th century and in huge numbers after 6th century.

    Only J and I people are true Ionians and Pelasgians.

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