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    Default Stop blaming all Croatian people for Ustashe crimes!

    We didn't chose them, they were brough here by foreign occupators, and they never enjoyed mass support in population!

    Stop putting gulit on entire Croatian people for their crimes!

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    Ustaše were Pro-German and Anti-Slavic

    Modern Croats are Pro-German and Anti-Slavic.

    Not to mention Zlatko Hasanbegovic, Ustasa from recent Croatian Government who said "I am Ustasa"

    So If government support Ustasa politicians, if Croats themselves are Pro-Germanic, Anti-Russian... then what is there to think but to compare majority of Croats with Ustasa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Ustaše were Pro-German and Anti-Slavic

    Modern Croats are Pro-German and Anti-Slavic.

    Not to mention Zlatko Hasanbegovic, Ustasa from recent Croatian Government who said "I am Ustasa"

    So If government support Ustasa politicians, if Croats themselves are Pro-Germanic, Anti-Russian... then what is there to think but to compare majority of Croats with Ustasa.
    Quote me Hasanbegović where he said he is Ustasha

    As usual lies from you.

    Most anti-Russian slavic country on earth is Poland, who also had cleanest struggle during ww2

    Poles are Ustashe than, good to know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    We didn't chose them, they were brough here by foreign occupators, and they never enjoyed mass support in population!

    Stop putting gulit on entire Croatian people for their crimes!
    Should some people also stop blaming all Turkish people for problem between Turks and Armenians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkan View Post
    Should some people also stop blaming all Turkish people for problem between Turks and Armenians?
    Sure, if you recognize Armenian genocide. As far as I know offical Turkey denies it.

    Croatian state recongize Ustashe genocide and apologized to the victims.

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    While your point stands that the blame shouldn't be put on the whole of Croatian people, it is ridiculous to designate them as an outside factor.

    The Nazis installed them because they were willing to be cooperative, but they didn't create them.
    „Beer has it's own way of sorting things out, does it not?“

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBringer View Post
    While your point stands, it is ridiculous to designate them as an outside factor.

    The Nazis installed them because they were willing to be cooperative, but they didn't create them.
    That's true, I just meant that without outside interference they would never come close to power.

    Ustashe were created by most radical Croats, trained abroad, but they were politically marginal movement.

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    History

    Before World War II


    In October 1928, after the assassination of leading Croatian politician Stjepan Radić, Croatian Peasant Party President in the Yugoslav Assembly by radical Montenegrin politician Puniša Račić, a youth group named the Croat Youth Movement was founded by Branimir Jelić at the University of Zagreb. A year later Ante Pavelić was invited by the 21-year-old Jelić into the organization as a junior member. A related movement, the Domobranski Pokret—which had been the name of the legal Croatian army in Austria-Hungary—began publication of Hrvatski Domobran, a newspaper dedicated to Croatian national matters. The Ustaše sent Hrvatski Domobran to the United States to garner support for them from Croatian-Americans. The organization around the Domobran tried to engage with and radicalize moderate Croats, using Radić's assassination to stir up emotions within the divided country. By 1929 two divergent Croatian political streams had formed: those who supported Pavelić's view that only violence could secure Croatia's national interests, and the Croatian Peasant Party, led then by Vladko Maček, successor to Stjepan Radić, which had much greater support among Croats.

    World War II

    The Axis Powers invaded Yugoslavia on 6 April 1941. Vladko Maček, the leader of the Croatian Peasant Party (HSS), which was the most influential party in Croatia at the time, rejected German offers to lead the new government. On 10 April the most senior home-based Ustaša, Slavko Kvaternik, took control of the police in Zagreb and in a radio broadcast that day proclaimed the formation of the Independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH). The name of the state was an attempt to capitalise on the Croat struggle for independence. Maček issued a statement that day, calling on all Croatians to cooperate with the new authorities.

    Meanwhile Pavelić and several hundred Ustaše left their camps in Italy for Zagreb, where he declared a new government on 16 April 1941.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Ustaše were Pro-German and Anti-Slavic

    Modern Croats are Pro-German and Anti-Slavic.

    Not to mention Zlatko Hasanbegovic, Ustasa from recent Croatian Government who said "I am Ustasa"

    So If government support Ustasa politicians, if Croats themselves are Pro-Germanic, Anti-Russian... then what is there to think but to compare majority of Croats with Ustasa.
    Hasanbegovic? isn't that a muslim name?

    by the way what's ustasa? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    Hasanbegovic? isn't that a muslim name?

    by the way what's ustasa? lol
    He is right-wing politican/historian who is muslim, and he identifies as Croat.

    Hated by radical left and especially by non-governmental organizations, because during his mandate as minister of culture he stopped giving them public money.

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