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    He has a lot of Aryan admixture, more than your average Pashtun or Tajik does

    Y-DNA: J2
    mtDNA: K1a4

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asian 39.98
    2 South_Asian 21.17
    3 Baltic 13.85
    4 North_Atlantic 10.38
    5 East_Med 5.68
    6 Siberian 3.86
    7 Amerindian 1.39
    8 Northeast_African 1.07
    9 Oceanian 0.81
    10 East_Asian 0.73
    11 Red_Sea 0.61
    12 West_Med 0.47

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Afghan_Pashtun 5.63
    2 Tadjik 9.12
    3 Afghan_Tadjik 13.54
    4 Kalash 14.33
    5 Tabassaran 16.52
    6 Pathan 17.65
    7 Burusho 17.71
    8 Balochi 18.41
    9 Chechen 18.43
    10 Lezgin 18.49
    11 Makrani 18.55
    12 Brahui 19.69
    13 Kumyk 20.02
    14 Kabardin 20.06
    15 Turkmen 20.1
    16 Punjabi_Jat 21.05
    17 Adygei 21.52
    18 Balkar 21.53
    19 North_Ossetian 21.72
    20 Ossetian 22.07

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 73% Brahui + 27% Finnish @ 3.35
    2 91.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.49
    3 73% Brahui + 27% East_Finnish @ 3.51
    4 92.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.6% Lithuanian @ 3.54
    5 91.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.5% Erzya @ 3.54
    6 92.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.6% Estonian @ 3.56
    7 91.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.57
    8 91.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.58
    9 92.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.7% Finnish @ 3.58
    10 91.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.59
    11 91.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.2% Polish @ 3.6
    12 92.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.8% Belorussian @ 3.63
    13 92.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.65
    14 92.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.6% East_Finnish @ 3.66
    15 91.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.67
    16 91.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.4% South_Polish @ 3.67
    17 92.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 7.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.68
    18 91.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.3% Ukrainian @ 3.68
    19 67.6% Balochi + 32.4% Tatar @ 3.74
    20 79.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 20.7% Tabassaran @ 3.75


    Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 33.58
    2 North_European 19.13
    3 Caucasus 17.53
    4 South_Asian 12.27
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.63
    6 Siberian 4.07
    7 Southwest_Asian 3.25
    8 East_Asian 2.85
    9 East_African 0.61
    10 Sub_Saharan 0.06
    11 Southeast_Asian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 7.8
    2 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.83
    3 Pathan (HGDP) 17.43
    4 Burusho (HGDP) 20.12
    5 Jatt (Dodecad) 24.33
    6 Iranians (Behar) 25.84
    7 Iranian (Dodecad) 26.94
    8 Kurd (Dodecad) 28.48
    9 Lezgins (Behar) 29.28
    10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 29.71
    11 Sindhi (HGDP) 29.87
    12 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 30.24
    13 Uzbeks (Behar) 30.33
    14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 30.71
    15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 30.73
    16 Makrani (HGDP) 33.46
    17 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 34.16
    18 Turks (Behar) 34.5
    19 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 34.88
    20 Balochi (HGDP) 35.02


    puntDNAL K15 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 37.72
    2 NE_European 22.55
    3 S_Indian 17.59
    4 Mediterranean 9.58
    5 Siberian 3.41
    6 SW_Asian 2.81
    7 E_Asian 1.67
    8 Wht_Nile_River 1.44
    9 Oceanian 1.41
    10 Amerindian 0.85
    11 Omo_River 0.69
    12 Beringian 0.28

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Pashtun 7.31
    2 Tadjik 7.9
    3 Pathan 15.85
    4 Turkmen 17.03
    5 Chechen 18.94
    6 Burusho 20.25
    7 Kumyk 20.68
    8 Lezgin 21.08
    9 Nogai 21.23
    10 Iranian 21.82
    11 Romani 22.07
    12 Balkar 22.65
    13 Kashmiri 22.68
    14 Balochi 23.19
    15 Makrani 23.76
    16 Brahui 24.06
    17 North_Ossetian 24.28
    18 Kurdish 24.31
    19 Uzbek 24.35
    20 Sindhi 25.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89.6% Pashtun + 10.4% Lithuanian @ 3.29
    2 89.1% Pashtun + 10.9% Belarusian @ 3.41
    3 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Russian @ 3.5

    4 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Karelian @ 3.51
    5 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Mordovian @ 3.57
    6 89.3% Pashtun + 10.7% Finnish @ 3.57
    7 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Polish @ 3.69
    8 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Swedish @ 3.92
    9 87.7% Pashtun + 12.3% Slovenian @ 3.94
    10 87.5% Pashtun + 12.5% Hungarian @ 4.01
    11 87.1% Pashtun + 12.9% Croatian @ 4.05
    12 88.5% Pashtun + 11.5% North_German @ 4.06
    13 88% Pashtun + 12% Austrian @ 4.06
    14 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Norwegian @ 4.13
    15 88.3% Pashtun + 11.7% Irish @ 4.15
    16 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Scottish @ 4.21
    17 88.7% Pashtun + 11.3% Orcadian @ 4.23
    18 88.8% Pashtun + 11.2% English @ 4.31
    19 88.1% Pashtun + 11.9% Chuvash @ 4.44
    20 87% Pashtun + 13% Serbian @ 4.45


    HarappaWorld Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 33.63
    2 Caucasian 19.84
    3 NE-Euro 17.43
    4 S-Indian 11.22
    5 Mediterranean 6.3
    6 Siberian 3.18
    7 SW-Asian 2.36
    8 NE-Asian 2.36
    9 Papuan 1.32
    10 American 1.05
    11 Beringian 0.86
    12 San 0.31
    13 E-African 0.12
    14 Pygmy 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.4
    2 pashtun (harappa) 10.82
    3 pathan (hgdp) 15.72
    4 kalash (hgdp) 16
    5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.45
    6 haryana-jatt (harappa) 17.68
    7 burusho (hgdp) 17.97
    8 sindhi (harappa) 19.03
    9 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 19.43
    10 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 19.57
    11 bhatia (harappa) 19.64
    12 kashmiri (harappa) 20.32
    13 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.96
    14 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 23.11
    15 stalskoe (xing) 23.4
    16 romanian-b (behar) 23.64
    17 punjabi (harappa) 23.91
    18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 24.01
    19 punjabi-arain (xing) 24.43
    20 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 24.53
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    Why do you assume only the North European components as ''Aryan'' (which is ethnolinguistic name btw, Iranians and North Indians are more ''Aryan'' than Russians)?
    Yamnaya was half EHG and half CHG so other components in them certainly arrived with ''Aryans'' too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
    Why do you assume only the North European components as ''Aryan'' (which is ethnolinguistic name btw, Iranians and North Indians are more ''Aryan'' than Russians)?
    Yamnaya was half EHG and half CHG so other components in them certainly arrived with ''Aryans'' too.
    Aryan = Indo-Iranian aka Poltavka/Sintashta. Don't straw man, I never say Russians are Aryans or whatever. But the Sintashta were definitely white people, ancient DNA analyses prove they were much more similar to Northeast Europeans than to Persians, let alone South Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Aryan = Indo-Iranian aka Poltavka/Sintashta. Don't straw man, I never say Russians are Aryans or whatever. But the Sintashta were definitely white people, ancient DNA analyses prove they were much more similar to Northeast Europeans than to Persians, let alone South Asians.
    Aryan is just an ethnolinguistic affiliation of North South Asians and Iranians, no racial connection in the modern sense implied here. European researchers from the beggining of the 19th century were the responsible for creating this confusion.

    Anyway, ''white'' people is a subjective term. I can show Iranians with very light skin and Russians with dark skin/Mediterranean features. It means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
    Why do you assume only the North European components as ''Aryan'' (which is ethnolinguistic name btw, Iranians and North Indians are more ''Aryan'' than Russians)?
    Yamnaya was half EHG and half CHG so other components in them certainly arrived with ''Aryans'' too.
    Early Aryans were genetically dominantly NE European with some CHG (~25%), even post-Andronovo Steppe Iranians were still closer to Europe than Caucasus. The CHG component was the dominating component in native Iranians and is still despite Aryan admixture.

    Poltavka:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 62.8
    2 West_Asia 26.88
    3 South_Asia 4.08
    4 SW_Europe 2.63
    5 Americas 2.49
    6 Siberia 1.12

    Andronovo:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 55.73
    2 West_Asia 17.68
    3 SW_Europe 17.59
    4 South_Asia 4.08
    5 Siberia 2.47
    6 Americas 2.4
    7 Oceania 0.04

    Scythian from Volga:


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 47.19
    2 West_Asia 24.04
    3 SW_Europe 13.65
    4 Siberia 6.75
    5 South_Asia 3.11
    6 Americas 3.02
    7 NE_Asia 1.25
    8 SE_Asia 0.98

    To clarify, the people that called themselves "Aryan" were genetically like the samples above, the term has passed down on their descendants.
    Last edited by Pahli; 02-21-2018 at 01:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Early Aryans were genetically dominantly NE European with some CHG (~30%), even post-Andronovo Steppe Iranians were still closer to Europe than Caucasus. The CHG component was the dominating component in native Iranians and is still despite Aryan admixture.

    Poltavka:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 62.8
    2 West_Asia 26.88
    3 South_Asia 4.08
    4 SW_Europe 2.63
    5 Americas 2.49
    6 Siberia 1.12

    Andronovo:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 55.73
    2 West_Asia 17.68
    3 SW_Europe 17.59
    4 South_Asia 4.08
    5 Siberia 2.47
    6 Americas 2.4
    7 Oceania 0.04

    Scythian from Volga:


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 47.19
    2 West_Asia 24.04
    3 SW_Europe 13.65
    4 Siberia 6.75
    5 South_Asia 3.11
    6 Americas 3.02
    7 NE_Asia 1.25
    8 SE_Asia 0.98

    To clarify, the people that called themselves "Aryan" were genetically like the samples above, the term has passed down on their descendants.
    Exactly. From the best study on steppe people so far:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post

    To clarify, the people that called themselves "Aryan" were genetically like the samples above, the term has passed down on their descendants.
    Yeah, but no Europeans ever called themselves ''Aryans'' to begin with. This was more or less a socio-linguistic term. The first Vedic Aryans moving into India still considered themselves ''Aryans'' despite the fact they were already heavily mixed with neolithic Iranian BMAC culture.

    Things were not like those guys were thinking ''we are not blonde blue eyed Nordics anymore, Aryans are Nordics'' or any similar retarded modern shit. The first Romans likely differed from modern Romans, early Franks were different genetically from medieval Franks etc. It doesn't mean the ethnic designation changed because they became different genetically. Ancient Greeks were very different compared to modern Greeks (much less Slavic, more or less like modern Cretans), it doesn't mean modern Greeks aren't their legitimate descendants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
    Yeah, but no Europeans ever called themselves ''Aryans'' to begin with. This was more or less a socio-linguistic term. The first Vedic Aryans moving into India still considered themselves ''Aryans'' despite the fact they were already heavily mixed with neolithic Iranian BMAC culture.

    Things were not like those guys were thinking ''we are not blonde blue eyed Nordics anymore, Aryans are Nordics'' or any similar retarded modern shit. The first Romans likely differed from modern Romans, early Franks were different genetically from medieval Franks etc. It doesn't mean the ethnic designation changed because they became different genetically. Ancient Greeks were very different compared to modern Greeks (much less Slavic, more or less like modern Cretans), it doesn't mean modern Greeks aren't their legitimate descendants.
    I didn't say that we aren't legitimate descendants, but the very first Aryans or the people who called themselves so were like this genetically. That's all I am trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    I didn't say that we aren't legitimate descendants, but the very first Aryans or the people who called themselves so were like this genetically. That's all I am trying to say.
    ''We''? I don't care about Aryans at all, my only identity is as Muslim and Abkhazian. I'm just pointing out some things since this is an anthropology forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
    Why do you assume only the North European components as ''Aryan'' (which is ethnolinguistic name btw, Iranians and North Indians are more ''Aryan'' than Russians)?
    Yamnaya was half EHG and half CHG so other components in them certainly arrived with ''Aryans'' too.
    By Aryan, he means Proto-Indo-Iranian. Aryan also refers to modern day Indo-Iranians but you know what he meant so there's no need to nitpick.

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