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    Default Turkish-Chinese origins of the Tang dynasty (China history's strongest dynasty)

    According to Chinese historians, the Tang dynasty (618-907) was like the best, most powerful and most expanding dynasty of the whole Chinese history.
    Even now China says they will expand to the world during this 21st century, and as a phrase to explain this situation they say: Tang dynasty will be revived.

    Tang dynasty was the arch rival of the Göktürks (1s Turkic Reich) and known to have efficiently divided them and destroyed their Kaghanate.

    The interesting thing, the slings and arrows of the outrageous fortune is that the founder of the Tang dynasty, man known as Li Yuan, was a Chinese person of mixed Turkic-Sinic origins.

    Li family was originally Turkic but then they mixed with Han Chinese people and assimilated into them. And later they became their ruling leader after overthrowing the Sui dynasty.


    The Imperial Capitals of China: An Inside View of the Celestial Empire
    By Arthur Cotterell
    p.108




    Chinese people used to worship their emperors. Chinese emperors were like semi-deities for Chinese people. We must not forget this, becoming Sinic emperor had a high status.

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    I think there was a big chunk of R1b in Northern Korea as well.

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    Many of the Han Chinese from the NW where the Tang founders hailed from were Sinicized Turkic kingdoms originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massagetae View Post
    I think there was a big chunk of R1b in Northern Korea as well.
    Q/N/C. They can't be anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Many of the Han Chinese from the NW where the Tang founders hailed from were Sinicized Turkic kingdoms originally.
    Yeah the Western Wei had close alliance with 1st Turkic Reich founded by Bumin Khan in 552 A.D.
    Bumin married the royal princess Changle. As a result of this alliance, proto-Mongol Rourans (Juan Juan) were taken down.

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    Tang dynasty's empire is referred to as the Golden Age of Chinese history

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    Chinese Strategists: Beyond Sun Zi's Art of War
    By Ooi Kee Beng
    page 70




    Emperor Taozung was one of the most powerful of the Tang dynasty.
    His son even turned wannabe Turkic.
    He started to speak Turk and act like a Turkic.
    But Tangs were loyal to Han Chinese culture, the son was punished as a result of wannabe Turkishness.


    The Cambridge History of Chinese Literature: To 1375
    edited by Kang-i Sun Chang, Stephen Owen
    page 273



    *This happens during 1st half of the 7th century AD by the way, for people who wonder the era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    According to Chinese historians, the Tang dynasty (618-907) was like the best, most powerful and most expanding dynasty of the whole Chinese history.
    Even now China says they will expand to the world during this 21st century, and as a phrase to explain this situation they say: Tang dynasty will be revived.

    Tang dynasty was the arch rival of the Göktürks (1s Turkic Reich) and known to have efficiently divided them and destroyed their Kaghanate. You seem to use every Turkic related text for everything to your advantage.

    The interesting thing, the slings and arrows of the outrageous fortune is that the founder of the Tang dynasty, man known as Li Yuan, was a Chinese person of mixed Turkic-Sinic origins.

    Li family was originally Turkic but then they mixed with Han Chinese people and assimilated into them. And later they became their ruling leader after overthrowing the Sui dynasty.


    The Imperial Capitals of China: An Inside View of the Celestial Empire
    By Arthur Cotterell
    p.108




    Chinese people used to worship their emperors. Chinese emperors were like semi-deities for Chinese people. We must not forget this, becoming Sinic emperor had a high status.

    Another outrageous Turkic claim. It's amazing how it easy it is to prove all of this simply by using Wikipedia search for 10 minutes


    Founders of Tang dynasty

    " The Li family belonged to the northwest military aristocracy prevalent during the Sui dynasty[11][12] and claimed to be paternally descended from the Daoist founder, Laozi (whose personal name was Li Dan or Li Er),[13] the Han dynasty General Li Guang,[14][15] and Western Liang ruler Li Gao. This family was known as the Longxi Li lineage (隴西李氏), which includes the Tang poet Li Bai. The Tang emperors also had Xianbei maternal ancestry,[16][17] from Emperor Gaozu of Tang's Xianbei mother, Duchess Dugu. "


    What on earth is a Xianbei ?

    Xianbei

    "Chinese historical texts unequivocally state that the Xianbei were descendants of the earlier Proto-Mongolic Donghu,[2] which used to be believed to represent the “Eastern Hu” based on the Chinese record. The Xianbei were a northern or northeastern Asian northern Mongoloid population according to modern Chinese and Russian anthropologists.[3] "

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Many of the Han Chinese from the NW where the Tang founders hailed from were Sinicized Turkic kingdoms originally.
    Lol a Chinese who doesn't even know his own history. It clearly claims their clan are Xianbei which is Mongolian linguistically so how is it Turkic ?


    An easy wkipedia check proves all of this wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massagetae View Post
    I think there was a big chunk of R1b in Northern Korea as well.
    No.







    Like seriously do people even check their own data ?

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    In other words Tang dynasty is not Sino-Turkic origin but it is Sino-Xianbei ( Han Chinese + Mongol )

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