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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12
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I wonder what kind of subclades of J2a and R1b exist in both of these countries?
Are they related, because as it seems J2a and R1b are exceptionally high in both of these countries, but E1b is low in Turkey?
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I wonder why haplogroups I and R1a correlate poorly. There should be an explanation as to why that is. The weak correlation between I and R1a throws a bit of a wrench in to the Greek-Slavic hypothesis. I and R1a should correlate strongly if there is a Slavic basis of part of modern Greeks.R1a It shows, rather logically, a strongest presence in Northern Greece, where it could have arrived in at least two migration episodes: the original Indo-European (Greek) arrival or the Slavic migrations (or both). But Balcanic Slavs are much stronger in I than R1a, so I'd rather tend for the first explanation.
R1a is also important in Rethymnon, a Venetian foundation (though maybe has another better explanation it anyhow seems a localized phenomenon in Crete).
I It is spread around but it is maybe stronger in the North having also some presence in the South/Aegean but irregularly. Being Greece a Balcanic country, I think it's just normal to find relatively high I. Still it does seem to partly (not fully) correlate with R1a in the North, But not in the rest of the country, where it's normally much more important than R1a.
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I don't see any particular reason to consider Balcanic I "Slavic". There is a lot of I around Europe and only a fracion has Slavic correlations. Even the more "slavic" subclade of I (I-P37.2) is shared with peoples that have no Slavic antecedents whatsoever, like Sardinians and other Western Mediterraneans.
Overall I and its subclades are considered quite old in Europe, not just much older than the genesis of Slavs but older than that of Indo-Europeans and Neolithic. Surely it was affected (carried from here to there) by these demographic and cultural epysodes but I see no reason to see any particularly "Slavic" correlation.
In fact Western Mediterranean I looks likely a Neolithic arrival. Why? Because Cardium Porttery culture ("Mediterranean Neolithic") has its urheimat at the coastal Western Balcans (Dalmatia, Bosnia, Albania) though admittedly also seems to have connections in Greece and even further East in Lebanon).
Being so old and spread around, your search for an Slavic connection is futile.
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Why I didn't see this thread at time?
This is of all Turkey(including non-Turks as Kurds, Circassians, Laz people, Bosnians etc.)
This is of only ethnic Turks( no non-Turk)
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