Illyrian Dalmatia

[A_Magnus7]

The most famous of those writers was Mavro Orbin. He actually conducted his research in Italian libraries, though mostly in Pesaro where he published his book 1601. and it was published in Italian so he could introduce Slavic history to a much wider audience. His The Realm of the Slavs (Il Regno de gli Slavi) was the role-model for the first modern histories of the South Slavic peoples and since it extensively describes the history of medieval Slavic states in the Balkans and was written using sources that are now lost to us, it is still used and analised today by local historians who specialise in the Middle Ages.

You're mistaken. Dalmatians have considered themselves Slavic far longer than you think. It wasn't in Russia or Poland or Czechia where pan-slavism started, it was the Dalmatians who lit the fuse:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism

When the Austrians took over, only a small minority had a romance identity and that was only because of Venetian influence.

Thank you brat! So Interesting to read
I know also about many Slavs faithful to our Republic of Venice, also in our army and navy we had lots of Dalmatian Slavs,
We used to call them Morlacchi or Dalmati, the most famous were Jozip Visković, Janko Mitrović, Stojan Janković Mitrović, Vuk Mandušić and ofc others

[Kelmendasi]

Nobody don't know which haplogroups Illyrians and Thracians had, because there is no genetic research of any Illyrian and Thracian necropolises.

In fact we do have Thracian haplogroup results with the results being E-Z1919(Likely V13) and a J2a iirc. As for Illyrian samples, there is that J2b2-L283 proto-Illyrian sample.

[chyyris]

In fact we do have Thracian haplogroup results with the results being E-Z1919(Likely V13) and a J2a iirc. As for Illyrian samples, there is that J2b2-L283 proto-Illyrian sample.

Illyrians and Thracians were IE people, and E1b and J2b2 are not IE markers.

[Kelmendasi]

Illyrians and Thracians were IE people, and E1b and J2b2 are not IE markers.

That doesn’t mean much as you have the Basque who are non-IE speaking but are IE genetically also Albanians and Greeks are also IE speakers but they mainly have Neolithic haplogroups. The IE cultures that became the Thracians and Illyrians clearly absorbed the native Ydna haplogroups in the region as shown by the ancient samples.

[chyyris]

Croats and Bosniaks are mainly Slavic genetically. Serbs, Bulgarians, Macedonians are more Thracian/Illyrian then Croats

You look more Slavic than peleo-Balkanic.

[Lucia]

If they are Illyrian, shouldn’t they be close to the Albanians? Afaik they are not really close.

[Moje ime]

If they are Illyrian, shouldn’t they be close to the Albanians? Afaik they are not really close.

Albanians are Illyrians like I'm Queen Elizabeth.

[Decius]

You look more Slavic than peleo-Balkanic.

More Paleo-Balkanic genetically

[chyyris]

More Paleo-Balkanic genetically

Who cares for genetic, look is more important.
Sergey Lavrov is genetically more Slavic than you (probably), but you look 100X more Slavic than him.

[Decius]

Who cares for genetic, look is more important.
Sergey Lavrov is genetically more Slavic than you (probably), but you look 100X more Slavic than him.

I cant say im some pure slav when I am 30% Slavic or so genetically I cant just pretend. Obviously alot of our ancestors were vlachs/illyrian more than slavic. Poles and Ukranians and other true slavs KNOW that we are assimalated balkanites on here its very clear we cant pretend