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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    And who are more than 20% Y-DNA markers "N" in Russia? Are they aliens?
    Oh Jesus Christ you fucking moron; Balts have something like 40% N1c1 yet nobody goes claiming they be Finno-Ugrics.

    Let me repeat: Russians are genetically 99% Polaks with some pull (and likely not even all) to Cental Asian Turkics. Under these facts there is no need bring up Finno-Ugric, hell maybe not anykind of extra-Polak ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Let me repeat: Russians are genetically 99%
    With different Y-DNA's branches Russia - R1a-Z280, Polska - R1a-M458

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    Proto-Balts and Proto-Slavs were the same people and I don't think at the time of their ethnogenesis they were different enough to have a separate set of genetic components like how Germans and Poles currently do, so including Baltic doesn't make much sense IMO. Balts only have some genetic differences with Slavs because of their geography. They aren't outliers in Eastern Europe.

    Besides Balto-Slavic, they have a semi-significant amount of Finno-Ugric, some Germanic and a bit of Iranic (only in certain regions around the steppe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Proto-Balts and Proto-Slavs were the same people
    Probably, but never 100% confirmed.

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    Scandinavian, finnic and Sarmatian in all, +Baltic for Belarus and Russia only, + Dacian for ukrainians only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    With different Y-DNA's branches Russia - R1a-Z280, Polska - R1a-M458

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    You fucking Slav retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    With different Y-DNA's branches Russia - R1a-Z280, Polska - R1a-M458
    He was talking about autosomal DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Proto-Balts and Proto-Slavs were the same people
    But that was a very long time ago.

    Linguists estimate that Proto-Slavic language split from the Proto-Balto-Slavic continuum between 4000 and 2500 years ago (2000-500 BC). First divisions within Proto-Slavs could take place even before 100 AD:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...=supplementary

    Quote: "(...) Our consensus tree (Fig. G in S2 File) suggests the following topological and temporal reconstruction of the Balto-Slavic languages. Initial disintegration of proto-Balto-Slavic into proto-East Baltic and proto-Slavic took place during the 2nd millennium BC*. Proto Slavic splits into three major clades, East, West, South Slavic around year 100 AD (1900 Years Before Present). Further diversification of each clade into minor clades (i.e. proto-East Slavic: Ukrainian/Belarusian, Russian; proto-West Slavic: Czech/Slovak, proto-Sorbian, Polish/Kashubian; proto-South Slavic: Serbo-Croatian, Bulgarian, Macedonian) took place during the 5th–7th centuries AD (about 1500–1300 YPB), followed by final shaping of individual languages (1000–500 YBP). (...)"

    *There was also proto-West Baltic as a 3rd branch (or maybe closer to Proto-Slavic?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    What other ethnic ancestries do these 3 East Slavic nations have, apart from Slavic?
    Czech.

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