Arab-Chinese war Battle of Talas,

[itilvolga]

The video says the opposite

and plus, Turks in Egypt used to kill each others to get in power, mamluks,ottomans etc.

i don’t care what the video says, i look at history and see that we never became friends with Chinese people so we never betrayed them. Also if someone do smth wrong or less, you have to make them stop even if they have same ancestors with you. It is not betraying as well

[Böri]

Karluks are only partial ancestors of Uyghurs and Uzbeks.

Southeastern Turkic people and languages are Karluk. That covers Uighurs and Uzbeks. Karluks were among first Turkic people to interact with Iranians and Arabs. In history, the very first Turkic converts to Islam might been Karluk individuals. That's my guess.

Karluks later converted to Islam, founded first ever Muslim Turkic khaganate (Karakhanids).

First officially were Idel Bulgars (922 AD), ancestors of Tatarstan which is now in middle of Russia. that was some decades before Karakhanids.

[Egyptian]

i don’t care what the video says, i look at history and see that we never became friends with Chinese people so we never betrayed them. Also if someone do smth wrong or less, you have to make them stop even if they have same ancestors with you. It is not betraying as well

Friends or no that doesn't change the fact that both agreed not to attack eachothers, but turks troops attacked them.

It's something like WWII between Russians and Germans, Germans betrayed the deal and attacked the russkies.

[Böri]

It's something like WWII between Russians and Germans, Germans betrayed the deal and attacked the russkies.

Betrayal story is bs. Karluks were a separate, third army who watchfully waited, later probably Arabs saw that Tang army was strong with good weapons and made deal with Karluks. After first charge, Chinese army was already routed. Your example is not well placed since Germans ultimately lost where as Karluks not only won the battle but through centuries they assimilated Transoxiania which became Uzbekistan.

[itilvolga]

Friends or no that doesn't change the fact that both agreed not to attack eachothers, but turks troops attacked them.

It's something like WWII between Russians and Germans, Germans betrayed the deal and attacked the russkies.

eem, when we had such a deal with them? also even if we had, they attacked us all the time without any doubt so we needed to sit and watch their victory hm really wisely lol

[Yaglakar]

Southeastern Turkic people and languages are Karluk. That covers Uighurs and Uzbeks. Karluks were among first Turkic people to interact with Iranians and Arabs. In history, the very first Turkic converts to Islam might been Karluk individuals. That's my guess.



First officially were Idel Bulgars (922 AD), ancestors of Tatarstan which is now in middle of Russia. that was some decades before Karakhanids.

Then you should have specified that you are talking about the Türki language and not ancestors. Because among Karluks, there were Chigils and Yaghma (Toquz Oghuz) who joined them after the collapse of Uighur Kaghanate. These three founded the Karakhanid state. Uighurs/Toquz Oghuz also migrated to Xinjiang and mixed with Tocharians. Karluks also mixed with Sogdians in Sogdiana in what is today Uzbekistan.

[Pahli]

Lol at the logic behind the betrayal of the Chinese army, Turks were constantly raiding them, then the Chinese conquer the Gökturks and people whine over it, wtf

[Böri]

The position of Oghuz Turks during that era (ancestors of people who founded Turkey, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan):
Migration from east to west:



I wish they had gone more west to Pontic-Caspian steppe and they wanted to but Khazar Khagans didn't allow. They told Oghuz you stay there. And maybe the result was better this way Later the Seljuk empire was founded there, around Aral and Caspian too in 1040s. And Oghuz migrated south, then westwards through Iran. It was not immigration but military social expansion.

[Robocop]

Turks never betrayed anyone, we were already enemies with them because they were trying to be power in Central Asia and controle us, we never allowed it. Betraying is smth idiosyncrasy between Araps.

Please dont take this in wrong way but you turkic ppl betrayed yourself when you adopted Islam.

It is true Chinese wanted to dominate central Asia, but al least they never betrayed who they are and managed to defend China AND THEIR CULTURE from Islam, or else they would have Mosques all over Chinese wall.

[Robocop]

Hey dimwit! Have you heard of Turkic Khazars and Turkic Türgesh who saved your "Christendom" by repelling Umayyad and Abbasid onslaught?

Yes I did but even without your help Arabs couldnt go against Greek fire whenever they would attack Byzantines/Constantinople.

You didnt save anythin, Byzantine Enmpire was shield of Europe for 1000 years.

And most advanced human society for 1000 years.

Until you destroyed it and invade Europe, that is the only thing you did and we dont forget, and we will never forget Christian HOLY CITY Constantinople.

Cheers