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Ćosović is famous for his nonsense and support of anti-serbian politics in Montenegro. It is true that Serbs of Montenegro have mixed with natives and their influence can be felt. However saying that they are not Slavs is simply ridiculous.
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Language: Slavic
Identity (names and surnames): Slavic
Tradition: Slavic (including Pagan Slavic characteristic, Serbs and Montenegrins have even stronger Paganic hertige than other south Slavs)
Genetic: Dominant Slavic (if count I2a as Slavic)
Result: Montenegrins are not Slavs
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Slavs was just a tribes like Vlachs. In best case there was half Slavs, half Vlachs and Slavic culture win
Roman/Byzantine influence, but still Slavic is majority. If you look at medieval south Slavic names, its almost completly Slavic, no Vlach names.2. Identity: Non-Slavic (a lot of Greek and Latin names falsely identified with Slavs)
Slava, Vidovdan, Ivanjdanski venci, Badnjak burning and other Badnjak traditions etc. are Pagan Slavic hertige, which existing today in Serbia and Montenegro.3. Tradition: def. non-Slavic.
Its not clear what is I2a origin. Slavic, non Slavic or both. BTW Majority of Montenegrins have I2a4. Genetic: Native
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I2a1b-Din in South Slavs is of Slavic origin
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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Can someone explain to me if I2a1b-Din is Slavic then why people where this haplogroup is most present (Hertzegovina) tend to be darker?
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I2a1b-Din isn't a native haplogroup, this was proven in 2016 iirc. I2a1b-Din reaches it's highest diversity in the Ukraine/Poland area suggesting expansion from there and going by the TMRCAs it was during the middle ages, the distant origin of I2a1b-Din though is in NW Europe as shown by a Motala sample from Sweden belonging to it, also out of all the ancient Balkans samples not a single one has turned out to be I2a1b-Din on the other hand though samples from eastern Europe have. Haplogroups and skin tone don't go hand in hand
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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