Proto-Indo-European technology

[Crimean]

ультразвук, потом девятнадцатого века, беспроводное электричество too? I am watching about that right now on YT (Kungurov, Predsedatel SNT, Neoficyalna Istorya etc.)

Begin with this, it's in russian. There, the entire magazine is devoted to atmospheric electricity and architecture, contains just a huge number of old photographs of the 19th century.
https://tech-dancer.livejournal.com/21375.html

[Kelmendasi]

The earliest known chariots are from the Sintashta culture, which was Post-PIE (one of descendant cultures of Proto-Indo-Europeans), most probably those people were Proto-Indo-Iranians:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture

And horse domestication was either done by PIE, or by their eastern neighbours, the Botai culture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botai_culture

It could also be done independently by several cultures. People of many early Steppe cultures hunted wild horses, but it is not easy to determine which culture first domesticated them.

Seems like you are correct, I though Sumerians had the earliest use of chariots but seems like these are older. I believe that horse domestication occurred somewhere around the Caucasus and surrounding areas

[Peterski]

I heard theories that they developed the dairy farming knowledge from dairy farmers of the late Neolithic

Yes.

I guess Proto-Indo-Europeans learned how to produce cheese from Trypillians or from GAC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucute...pillia_culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_Amphora_culture

The oldest evidence of cheese-making is from Poland of GAC culture times, from Cuiavia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuyavia#History

The earliest solid evidence of cheese-making, dating to 5,500 BC, was found in Kuyavia.[8][9]

And the oldest actual piece of cheese (preserved to our times) is from Indo-Europeans:

https://www.livescience.com/43782-mu...st-cheese.html



The oldest evidence of wheeled vehicles is from Poland, the 2nd oldest from Mesopotamia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronocice_pot

[Peterski]

Indo-European glue: http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...0-years-020120

But glue in a broad sense (substances that stick things together) is older.

Already Neanderthals knew how to stick things together using tar:

"Neanderthals were distilling tar 200 thousand years ago in Europe":

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...ago-in-europe/

[Peterski]

Seems like you are correct, I though Sumerians had the earliest use of chariots but seems like these are older. I believe that horse domestication occurred somewhere around the Caucasus and surrounding areas

I think that Sumerian "chariots" were just normal 4-wheeled wagons (based on pictures).

Proper 2-wheeled war chariots (like the ones used later) were invented by Sintashta.

I think wheeled vehicles were invented around Caucasus, and spread in two directions, towards Poland and Mesopotamia. Which is why they appeared around the same time in two latter places.

[Peterski]

The Sumerians seem to have been the first to use Chariots

Sumerian chariots were not proper chariots, but 4-wheeled vehicles:



^^^ That type of "chariot" originated most probably in the Caucasus:

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2014/06...rial-from.html

And here a Sintashta chariot (reconstruction), a proper combat chariot:



^^^ Egyptians started using such chariots later than the Chinese:

horse domestication occurred somewhere around the Caucasus

Horse domestication occured probably where wild horses were the most plentiful - in the Steppe.

[Rethel]

the Botai culture:

But they only ate them.

from GAC:

Gacki could be partialy IE too - or at least dominated or influenced.

Seems like you are correct, I though Sumerians had the earliest use of chariots

When these and these did this?

[Peterski]

GAC samples were published, they were I2 and had no Steppe admixture.

Only one sample had a bit of Steppe admixture, if I remember correctly.

[Rethel]

GAC samples were published, they were I2 and had no Steppe admixture.

Only one sample had a bit of Steppe admixture, if I remember correctly.

Do you really think, that when some population is influenced, that means,
that evey single one of the inhabitants have to be mixed or/and have an
influential neighbour buried in the same grave, especially on two different
outskirt villages where devil says good night?

[LoLeL]

None of steppe nomadic groups were civilized before becoming a sedentary population or encountering a civilization. Am I wrong? Then show me a PIE group or early IE people who were as civilized as Near Easterns.