90% of what we see now in Europe was born and developed from Italy...

[renaissance12]

Europe could be easily in most aspects pretty much the same without the much praised Scandinavia nations, but Europe would never be the same without Italy.

[Bosniensis]

Europe could be easily in most aspects pretty much the same without the much praised Scandinavia nations, but Europe would never be the same without Italy.

You mean Balkan?

Italy is invented nation previously known as Lombardy.

We have lost Italy in 5th century then in 7th.

Italy is Lombards, Frankish and Norman... those people have nothing to do with Roman Republic/Empire or Italian peninsula.

Don't delude yourself only Southern Italians are Italians.

You are speaking Italian Romance language which is in fact a Germanic language with Latin wordlist.

[renaissance12]

I mean that Italy shaped 90% of Europe ( including Balkan ) . particularly Western Europe.( like it or not )

From antiquity untill 17th century Italy was considered as the central place of western culture.. More than 2000 years..

Why is Italy only Lombards, Frankish and Norman... ? Do you know that Archimedes was born in Sicily.. ?

[Yaglakar]

LOL. You are all bad copies of North-West European civilization. It becomes clear when one crosses the border between Switzerland and Italy. It is like another world.

[Smeagol]

Actually pretty much all that stuff that makes up a Civilization has roots in Greece and the ancient Middle East.

[renaissance12]

Actually pretty much all that stuff that makes up a Civilization has roots in Greece and the ancient Middle East.

Greece and Middle East..had not any "Renaissance"

[Smeagol]

Renaissance had nothing to do with Greece and Middle East..

Of course it did, it was sparked by the revival of classical Greco-Roman writings/knowledge.

[renaissance12]

Of course it did, it was sparked by the revival of classical Greco-Roman writings/knowledge.

Renaissance had no ( or little ) impact in Greece...Renaissance means Re-Birth..

[Smeagol]

Renaissance had no ( or little ) impact in Greece...Renaissance means Re-Birth..

No because Greece was under Ottoman rule at the time. I'm talking about ancient Greek influence of course.

[renaissance12]

No because Greece was under Ottoman rule at the time. I'm talking about ancient Greek influence of course.

It is well known that the Ancient Romans had fallen in love with Greece..( and only with Greece ) .

Horace quote: Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit

"Captive Greece took captive her savage conquerer and brought the arts to rustic Latium”