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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The first Albanian state was in 1190 under the name Arbanon. We have Skanderbeg, I don't care about any of the others lol.
    Did Milos spoke Serbian or Albanian? And how you wrote down this when you didn't have alphabet? I would trust to Byzantine and even to Turkish sources only.

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    Perhaps Serbia does not want peace with these countries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Did Milos spoke Serbian or Albanian? And how you wrote down this when you didn't have alphabet? I would trust to Byzantine and even to Turkish sources only.
    I reckon he was a Serb although there are speculations about a Vlach, Albanian or Hungarian origin. We did have alphabet, we used Greek, Cyrillic and Latin throughout history.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Perhaps Serbia does not want peace with these countries...
    We are in peace with everybody actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    We are in peace with everybody actually.
    I know but the OP insinuates Serbia is crazy for being in peace with others, while others dont want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Did Milos spoke Serbian or Albanian? And how you wrote down this when you didn't have alphabet? I would trust to Byzantine and even to Turkish sources only.
    It is not certain whether Obilic actually existed , just saying .

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrashNick View Post
    It is not certain whether Obilic actually existed , just saying .
    He was a fictional character, also the battle itself has huge mythic elements in it, I understand why they reincarnated battle and regard as glorious chapter of history (actually resulted with a huge loss and defeat by serbs & others) the battle nonetheless remain a basic foundation of serb nationalism, they picked a defeat to ensure an image of great christian fighters and claim for Kosovo, you know heavenly people usual business.

    Anyways, I blame our lethargy for not blowing their irrational concept or fable for a territorial claim.
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    Croatia. Our wars are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I reckon he was a Serb although there are speculations about a Vlach, Albanian or Hungarian origin. We did have alphabet, we used Greek, Cyrillic and Latin throughout history.
    Miloš Obilić (Serbian Cyrillic: Милош Обилић, pronounced [mîloʃ ôbilit͡ɕ]; died June 15, 1389) was a Serbian knight in the service of Prince Lazar, during the invasion of the Ottoman Empire. He is not mentioned in contemporary sources, but he features prominently in later accounts of the Battle of Kosovo as the assassin of the Ottoman sultan Murad I. Although the assassin remains anonymous in sources until the late 15th century, the dissemination of the story of Murad's assassination in Florentine, Serbian, Ottoman and Greek sources suggests that versions of it circulated widely across the Balkans within half a century after the event.

    It is not certain whether Obilić actually existed, but Lazar's family – strengthening their political control – "gave birth to the myth of Kosovo", including the story of Obilić.[1] He became a major figure in Serbian epic poetry, in which he is elevated to the level of the most noble national hero of medieval Serbian folklore. Along with the martyrdom of Prince Lazar and the alleged treachery of Vuk Branković, Miloš's deed became an integral part of Serbian traditions surrounding the Battle of Kosovo. In the 19th century, Miloš also came to be venerated as a saint in the Serbian Church.
    The guy never existed, he was just a product of many voluminous serb fables of middle age.

    PS. when Wiki overrun by serb pest is not able to provide enough evidence whether he actually existed be sure he did not exist apart of their folklore shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post
    The guy never existed, he was just a product of many voluminous serb fables of middle age.
    Was it a random Serb that killed the Sultan then?
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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