How come Catholics haven't assimilated well into American society?

[Grace O'Malley]

When you talk, does it sound more Irish or Australian?

I've got an odd accent. Some people think I'm from the west country in England like Somerset. It's a combination of Irish and Aussie. In Ireland they think I'm Australian and in Australia they aren't quite sure. English people can usually pick I'm Irish though.

[Bobby Martnen]

I've got an odd accent. Some people think I'm from the west country in England like Somerset. It's a combination of Irish and Aussie. In Ireland they think I'm Australian and in Australia they aren't quite sure. English people can usually pick I'm Irish though.

Top of the morning to ya, mate! Care for a shamrock shake and some vegemite?

[Grace O'Malley]

Top of the morning to ya, mate! Care for a shamrock shake and some vegemite?

No one in Ireland says "top of the morning to ya". I think that must be from some American movie.

[Bobby Martnen]

No one in Ireland says "top of the morning to ya". I think that must be from some American movie.

Do you really have shamrock shakes there, or is that also American?

[Grace O'Malley]

Do you really have shamrock shakes there, or is that also American?

Nope. That's an American thing as well. A lot of the fiddly dee stuff is American and is why Irish people get a bit pissed off with it. It's always funny listening to Americans attempt to do an Irish accent. They always raise their voice a few octaves.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Top of the morning to ya, mate! Care for a shamrock shake and some vegemite?

'Top of the morning' Did you mean 'G'day, mate?' I wouldn't call a female as 'mate' though. It's kind of like saying 'buddy' in the US.

'Mate' and 'ya' are English and Aussie slang, rather than Irish terms.

Baileys and Guinness are Irish .... but I've never heard of 'Shamrock Shake'. I've just looked it up and it's an American milkshake that's sold in McDonalds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock_Shake

Vegemite isn't Irish. It's the Aussie version of Marmite (a yeast and vitamin B extract spread that's popular in Great Britain, South Africa, and New Zealand.)

Marmite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite (The Swiss have a similar product called Cenovis, and the Germans have a similar product called Vitam-R.)

Vegemite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegemite

Vegemite (prominent in Australia) doesn't taste as strong as Marmite (prominent in Great Britain,) so you may prefer Vegemite over Marmite if you're not acquired to the taste from an early age.

In the UK, infants are even tested on their Britishness by their parents giving them marmite smeared very lightly on toast to see if they like it... (it's rich in B vitamins!) We have a saying in Great Britain about Marmite;- 'you either love it or hate it!'

Vegemite is the Aussie version.



I love seeing American peoples facial reactions when they try either Marmite or Vegemite for the first time... (They make a mistake of spreading it way too thickly though, when it's only supposed to be spread very thinly and lightly on toast.) In the UK, infants like it spread lightly onto strips of sliced toast and served with a boiled egg to dip it into, which we call as 'egg n' soldiers' as kids.


1:54... it's interesting seeing the facial reactions of toddlers when they're trying either Marmite or Vegemite for the first time.


Sorry, it's OT, but it's funny...

Spoiler!

People who've unlovingly neglected their jars of Marmite.... found in a bad state and neglected at the back of their cupboards by cruelty inspectors who take the jars away from the 'offenders' to be rehomed, where the jars of Marmite will be appreciated and loved by people.



1:02 (That's like pouring a whole bottle of Tabasco chili pepper sauce into a dish, instead of using just a few drops.)



Japanese peoples reaction to the taste... 2:30

[uptheantee]

LOL! Catholics don't put the Vatican ahead of their national Governments nor do Catholics in the US put the Vatican ahead of the US. You have many great Catholic soldiers that have fought and died in your wars. Regarding Irish wasn't Audie Murphy a decorated American hero? The Irish are Catholics and don't hold any allegiance to the Vatican. How simplistic are some people in their thought processes? The same with the French and Bavarians. Anyway you are a new poster and as Apricity attracts a lot of trolls I won't take what you say too seriously.

There were many groups considered undesirables in the past and many more will be considered so in the future but this doesn't show that Irish, Polish and Italians haven't integrated into US society. The Irish were once British they aren't now. There are many ways of looking back at history. All Irish prejudices stem from the British trying to colonise their country and says nothing about the calibre of the people. One of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence was a man of Catholic Irish descent Charles Carroll.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charle..._of_Carrollton

So tell me again how the Catholics haven't assimilated into American society? Anyway aren't you that Indian guy who trolls on here?

I think that Indian guy was referring more to Catholics than Irish. The Irish-Americans are just seen as any other White American, but there's always been anti-Catholic sentiment in the USA.

Meanwhile,

Some of the most financially successful religious groups – Jews, Hindus, Episcopalians, and Presbyterians – also are all among the nation’s most educated as well. These rankings, which come from our 2014 Religious Landscape Study, are based on the percentage of people within each religious group who reside in households with a yearly income of $100,000 or more.

About four-in-ten Jews (44%) and roughly a third of Hindus (36%) and Episcopalians (35%) live in households with incomes of at least $100,000. Again, these groups also have high levels of educational attainment. For instance, nearly half of Hindu adults and almost one-third of Jewish adults hold postgraduate degrees. Indeed, in addition to education, other factors, such as age, race and ethnicity also are correlated with both religion and income.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...igious-groups/

Atheists and Agnostics should also be added to that list. Lol Martnen will disagree, however.

[zhaoyun]

Yes they have. What on earth are you talking about?

[StonyArabia]

They have, especially White Catholics like Irish, Italians, Germans ect. The ones that did not assimilate are the Mestizos coming from Mexico and central America.

[bluecardinal]

Here's my (non-troll) answer. Catholics in America to a large extent, still have their own social circles that rarely interact with wider society. They usually send their children off to separate Catholic schools, and tend to frown on intermarriage.

When my Protestant grandfather married my Catholic grandmother, all the disapproval and mistreatment came from the Catholics, not the Protestants.

Nope. I'd say most educated White Americans are abandoning organized religion altogether, whether it be Protestantism, Catholicism or whatever else. This is a step in the right direction because Abrahamic religions are incompatible with modern science and rational thinking. Also I found this interesting.

Built By Immigrants, U.S. Catholic Churches Bolstered By Them Once Again

Nearly a century ago, immigrants from Germany and Ireland founded St. Helena Church in a working-class neighborhood in north Philadelphia.

Immigrants, and their children, still fill the pews at St. Helena's — but the vast majority of them are now from Vietnam, Latin America, the Philippines and Africa. Weekly masses are conducted in Spanish and Vietnamese as well as English. The senior priest, the Rev. Joseph Trinh, is himself a Vietnamese refugee. One of his associate priests is from Haiti, and another is from Ecuador.

https://www.npr.org/2015/09/09/43721...hem-once-again