Иванов: Нема да го потпишам Законот за јаз

[MKLion]

Duetsche Welle

http://www.dw.com/en/macedonia-factfile/a-18449208



The State Statistical Office defines migration as one of the main trends affecting the natural growth of the country's population, because it significantly changes the demographics of age and sex. According to the European statistic agency (Eurostat), around 330,000 people left Macedonia to live abroad legally in the period between 2001 and 2011. In these 10 years, more than 10 percent of the country's population has been drained by emigration. The real number of emigrated citizens is probably much higher when counting Macedonians who fled the country illegally. The realistic figure is a drained population of 15% over 10 years.

Yes exactly, the majority of the emigrants being Albanians. Thanks for prooving my point catgeorge you APU PISU MALAKA

[Crn Volk]

Delusional again, you're intentionally ignoring age pyramid which again is best projection to make about births and future generation, the macedonian base is shrinking while Albanians stagnating, the trend will continue to worsen for macedonian, the tide is changing also in society where this artificial country is starting to employ more minorities and rights of Albanians are taken more seriously, the Albanians are here to stay, in census I'm pretty confident will hit 30% mark, the 20% claim is like waiting to get a sleep and hope for good dream which usually doesn't happen, must be an macedonian thing to keep up that way, births shows that 33% is a norm for some years already (count out torbeshi who are lumped into macedonian category while in census few will mark Albanian as own ethnicity), what you say are pure BS, the macedoniantruth forum which I'm sure you whine there too has dedicated specific thread about how country is being albanized, ofc we will ask for our rights and would be wiser if you accept our offer before you won't be able to see this country in world map anymore.

PS. Interesting to have only diaspora macedonians talks how Albanians become non factor while y'all reside in west and a huge numbers is starting to take Bulgarian passport to migrate elsewhere too.

Albania begins EU accession talks in June. Once it enters the EU there will be a mass exodus of Albanians to the West from Kosovo and western Macedonia....

[Vojnik]

Duetsche Welle

http://www.dw.com/en/macedonia-factfile/a-18449208

2002 rigged census. The Austrian ambassador who was a foreign observer at the time of the census, even admitted to seeing bus loads of Albanians moving from village to village. A new accurate census must be done. By the way, medical statistics show Albanians are 15%. They have migrated out of the country since 2002 en masse. More so then Macedonians. Which is why in 2011 Albanian politicians complained and had the census halted.

[MKLion]

2002 rigged census. The Austrian ambassador who was a foreign observer at the time of the census, even admitted to seeing bus loads of Albanians moving from village to village. A new accurate census must be done. By the way, medical statistics show Albanians are 15%. The have migrated out of the country since 2002 en masse. More so then Macedonians.

As though we all wish they were 15% they are actually around 26-27% of the country. A new census was announced and will be completed in 2020. The great thing is that they will never hit 30% and in 10-15 years will be low 20% or maybe even below 20% but it will take a few years of lots of nice emigration to make it happen.

If Macedonia was to hold a proper census today without political interference the populations would show the following approximations


Total Population - 175-1800000
Macedonian 1125000 = 62.5%
Albanian 470000 = 26%
Turkish 70000 = 4%
Romani 60000 = 3%
Serbs 30000 = 1%
All others 45000 = 2.5%

The Albanians would be down around 37000 from the fraudulent census conducted in 2002 where areas of Kichevo, Debar, Struga boosted to the fake number of Albanians for the Ohrid framework agreement.

[Crn Volk]

As though we all wish they were 15% they are actually around 26-27% of the country. A new census was announced and will be completed in 2020. The great thing is that they will never hit 30% and in 10-15 years will be low 20% or maybe even below 20% but it will take a few years of lots of nice emigration to make it happen.

If Macedonia was to hold a proper census today without political interference the populations would show the following approximations


Total Population - 175-1800000
Macedonian 1125000 = 62.5%
Albanian 470000 = 26%
Turkish 70000 = 4%
Romani 60000 = 3%
Serbs 30000 = 1%
All others 45000 = 2.5%

The Albanians would be down around 37000 from the fraudulent census conducted in 2002 where areas of Kichevo, Debar, Struga boosted to the fake number of Albanians for the Ohrid framework agreement.

The question of ethnic origin may be removed in the 2020 census....

http://www.zaman.mk/en/macedonia/147...ells-birn.html

[MKLion]

The question of ethnic origin may be removed in the 2020 census....

http://www.zaman.mk/en/macedonia/147...ells-birn.html

Well since minorities in Macedonia gain rights depending on percentages then it has to be known how many of these minorities reside in the country. But for the State in general it is better NOT to have ethnicity as a question as it creates ethnic divisions.

[catgeorge]

Yes exactly, the majority of the emigrants being Albanians. Thanks for prooving my point catgeorge you APU PISU MALAKA

It proves a dying and decaying hamlet nothing more than that.

[MKLion]

It proves a dying and decaying hamlet nothing more than that.

Just like the majority of Europe including Greece.

Aren't you broke over there ? How are u on the internet? LOL

[catgeorge]

Just like the majority of Europe including Greece.

Aren't you broke over there ? How are u on the internet? LOL

You are confused - companies in Greece are growing and small business sector is growing - Greece has the most vibrant tech start up business in Europe.

The only problem with Greece is when Anglo and North European women take Greek men away from Greek women. This is heartbreaking.

[MKLion]

You are confused - companies in Greece are growing and small business sector is growing - Greece has the most vibrant tech start up business in Europe.

The only problem with Greece is when Anglo and North European women take Greek men away from Greek women. This is heartbreaking.

Golden Dawn giving away free potatoes to hungry citizens isn't really an economic boom

Well maybe it is for the potato industry Haha