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    Default Mizrahi and Sephardi MyHeritage results + GEDmatch

    Uploaded my raw dna data from FTDNA to MyHeritage.


    Other 3.9% is broken down as 3% Ashkenazi and 0.9% Nigerian.

    Sephardic score is too high again, assuming my known ancestry is correct. Only one grandparent is Sephardi, when I saw a similar Sephardi score on Family Finder (42%) I thought it just grouped some of my Mizrahi heritage as Sephardic, but it's consistent with this test as well so it raises a question mark...

    Do you think the MyHeritage algorithm is reliable enough to base assumptions on these results?
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    No Italian, interesting. A lot of Jews score it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    No Italian, interesting. A lot of Jews score it.
    They should make a matzo ball pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    No Italian, interesting. A lot of Jews score it.
    Yeah I thought I'd get some as well, based on other people's results. Btw I can't answer PMs yet but I put my input into what you sent me, although I'm no proffesional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    They should make a matzo ball pizza.
    Passover is just around the corner so we might as well.

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    Interesting is that in Brazil, there are two types of north african jews: a ladino speaker with origin in Iberian jews that fled to North Africa and other that was there much before sephardic arrived, probable from phoenician times. I never know how to name the last.

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    They are called 'Maghrebi Jews' (Maghreb meaning west in arabic referring to the North African countries western of Egypt), but I don't know if they are even considered a different distinct group, rather a part of what makes up current day Sephardis from North Africa? To be perfectly honest though I only fairly recently learned there even was Jewish settlement in North Africa prior to the Spanish Expulsion.

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    GEDmatch results using the Eurogenes K13 calculator. I don't really know which one of these calculators is considered the 'best' for me but here's a start

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 42.01
    2 West_Asian 22.45
    3 Red_Sea 13.09
    4 West_Med 12.66
    5 North_Atlantic 5.04
    6 Northeast_African 2.32
    7 South_Asian 1.02
    8 Oceanian 0.73
    9 East_Asian 0.61
    10 Siberian 0.08
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Lebanese_Muslim 3.82
    2 Syrian 5.1
    3 Lebanese_Christian 6.43
    4 Samaritan 6.53
    5 Palestinian 7.1
    6 Lebanese_Druze 7.36
    7 Jordanian 7.45
    8 Cyprian 8.96
    9 Kurdish_Jewish 9.04
    10 Iranian_Jewish 9.72
    11 Assyrian 11.45
    12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.65
    13 Bedouin 12.82
    14 Libyan_Jewish 13.23
    15 Georgian_Jewish 14.71
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 15.24
    17 Turkish 16.55
    18 Italian_Jewish 17.03
    19 Algerian_Jewish 17.17
    20 Armenian 17.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.44
    2 70.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.3% Palestinian @ 2.67
    3 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Saudi @ 2.77
    4 61.5% Syrian + 38.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.81
    5 72.7% Palestinian + 27.3% Armenian @ 2.9
    6 70.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.03
    7 71.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.3% Samaritan @ 3.07
    8 63.4% Palestinian + 36.6% Assyrian @ 3.18
    9 60.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 39.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.19
    10 76% Lebanese_Muslim + 24% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.19
    11 59.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 40.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.2
    12 58.6% Syrian + 41.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.29
    13 78.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.5% Jordanian @ 3.36
    14 87.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 12.1% Bedouin @ 3.42
    15 87.8% Samaritan + 12.2% Tabassaran @ 3.45
    16 77.8% Samaritan + 22.2% Azeri @ 3.45
    17 69.8% Palestinian + 30.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.49
    18 87.3% Samaritan + 12.7% Lezgin @ 3.51
    19 80% Samaritan + 20% Kurdish @ 3.6
    20 57.5% Palestinian + 42.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.62

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    They are called 'Maghrebi Jews' (Maghreb meaning west in arabic referring to the North African countries western of Egypt), but I don't know if they are even considered a different distinct group, rather a part of what makes up current day Sephardis from North Africa? To be perfectly honest though I only fairly recently learned there even was Jewish settlement in North Africa prior to the Spanish Expulsion.
    There are roman relates about jews destroing pagan temples in Cyrenaica (current Libya).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitos_War

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    It doesn’t make sense to why everyone who takes my heritage dna test scores Nigerian, maybe it’s a glitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    GEDmatch results using the Eurogenes K13 calculator. I don't really know which one of these calculators is considered the 'best' for me but here's a start

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 42.01
    2 West_Asian 22.45
    3 Red_Sea 13.09
    4 West_Med 12.66
    5 North_Atlantic 5.04
    6 Northeast_African 2.32
    7 South_Asian 1.02
    8 Oceanian 0.73
    9 East_Asian 0.61
    10 Siberian 0.08
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Lebanese_Muslim 3.82
    2 Syrian 5.1
    3 Lebanese_Christian 6.43
    4 Samaritan 6.53
    5 Palestinian 7.1
    6 Lebanese_Druze 7.36
    7 Jordanian 7.45
    8 Cyprian 8.96
    9 Kurdish_Jewish 9.04
    10 Iranian_Jewish 9.72
    11 Assyrian 11.45
    12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.65
    13 Bedouin 12.82
    14 Libyan_Jewish 13.23
    15 Georgian_Jewish 14.71
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 15.24
    17 Turkish 16.55
    18 Italian_Jewish 17.03
    19 Algerian_Jewish 17.17
    20 Armenian 17.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.44
    2 70.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.3% Palestinian @ 2.67
    3 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Saudi @ 2.77
    4 61.5% Syrian + 38.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.81
    5 72.7% Palestinian + 27.3% Armenian @ 2.9
    6 70.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.03
    7 71.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.3% Samaritan @ 3.07
    8 63.4% Palestinian + 36.6% Assyrian @ 3.18
    9 60.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 39.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.19
    10 76% Lebanese_Muslim + 24% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.19
    11 59.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 40.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.2
    12 58.6% Syrian + 41.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.29
    13 78.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.5% Jordanian @ 3.36
    14 87.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 12.1% Bedouin @ 3.42
    15 87.8% Samaritan + 12.2% Tabassaran @ 3.45
    16 77.8% Samaritan + 22.2% Azeri @ 3.45
    17 69.8% Palestinian + 30.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.49
    18 87.3% Samaritan + 12.7% Lezgin @ 3.51
    19 80% Samaritan + 20% Kurdish @ 3.6
    20 57.5% Palestinian + 42.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.62
    Is the the results of a Mizrahi Jew? Looks very similar to mine.

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