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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-47 View Post
    It does seem baffling, why people wouldn't grasp that Sicilians are on average a hybridized group, straddling between the MENA and Southern Europe.
    Of course some can pass squarely in the MENA.

    Here are some Sicilians from another region -- Agrigento. They are a mixture of types that are more typically European and more Levant and North African influence.

    https://www.facebook.com/pg/discotec...=page_internal

    Which is consistent with their DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-47 View Post
    It does seem baffling, why people wouldn't grasp that Sicilians are on average a hybridized group, straddling between the MENA and Southern Europe.
    Of course some can pass squarely in the MENA.
    They can't grasp that even North Italians on average are more Southern genetically than other Europeans living in their lattitude. Basques, Southern French, Croats have more WHG, Steppe admixture than any North Italian, not even the most Northern shifted genetic outliers from Bergamo are as Northern than random Spanish and it's visible in their looks. More West Asian resulted heavier Dinarization in North Italy vs the Cro Magnid-Atlantid types in Iberia representing the original Mesolithic European stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justpassing View Post
    In my opinion, your idea of Sicilians is more on the lighter side of the spectrum and represented a relatively small minority.
    The majority of Sicilians have darker features.
    Blondism/red-hair, in Sicilians is a relatively rare trait, and not by any means typical.
    A Mediterranean skin complexion is the norm, and an ability to get a deep tan in the warmer months is also the norm.
    I do agree with you that the OP's picture is atypical for Sicilians.
    My bad then..I'm probably wrong. Again, i only visited the place once. I remember seeing blondes, redheads, brunettes... Yes i also do remember seeing darker ones for sure but that guy wasn't the norm from what i remember. Maybe it's because i was in the most touristic part of the of Sicily i'm not sure. I've seen dark europeans. One that comes to mind is also Nadal.

    But even he certainly doesn't have these types of facial features. That sicilian guy looks blatantly semitic imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-47 View Post

    My bad then..I'm probably wrong. Again, i only visited the place once. I remember seeing blondes, redheads, brunettes... Yes i also do remember seeing darker ones for sure but that guy wasn't the norm from what i remember. Maybe it's because i was in the most touristic part of the of Sicily i'm not sure. I've seen dark europeans. One that comes to mind is also Nadal.

    But even he certainly doesn't have these types of facial features. That sicilian guy looks blatantly semitic imo
    Which part of Sicily did you go to? I.e. which provinces. That might make a difference because the Semitic types are concentrated in specific provinces and regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Here are some Sicilians from another region -- Agrigento. They are a mixture of types that are more typically European and more Levant and North African influence.

    https://www.facebook.com/pg/discotec...=page_internal

    Which is consistent with their DNA.
    Good set of pictures.
    Have you used any in a thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What I don't get is why you think Sicilians, a European group with an unparalleled level of MENA input for Europe (except Malta and, if you count it, Cyprus) will not have phenotypes like this.
    I'm going to be honest, i'm new around here and i don't know much about Sicilians, i'm only posting my opinion on what i've seen in real life, in person. But now that you mention it i guess i shouldn't be surprised. You're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justpassing View Post
    I'm going to be honest, i'm new around here and i don't know much about Sicilians, i'm only posting my opinion on what i've seen in real life, in person. But now that you mention it i guess i shouldn't be surprised. You're right.
    Being honest is a good trait.
    Many posters on here with 1000s of posts, wouldn't say what you just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justpassing View Post

    Which part of Sicily did you go to? I.e. which provinces. That might make a difference because the Semitic types are concentrated in specific provinces and regions.
    it was ages ago but i think it was in Palermo. I visited the catacombs, they have an amazingly preserved mummy of a little girl over there. Visited a few more places but from what i remember it seemed to me that most of them looked European. Not gonna deny, there were some darker ones for sure, but overall i'd say they looked european. Again i haven't visited all of Sicily so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post

    it was ages ago but i think it was in Palermo. I visited the catacombs, they have an amazingly preserved mummy of a little girl over there. Visited a few more places but from what i remember it seemed to me that most of them looked European. Not gonna deny, there were some darker ones for sure, but overall i'd say they looked european. Again i haven't visited all of Sicily so...

    That is odd because Palermo is one of the areas with higher Semitic influence. Palermo, Agrigento, Caltanissetta, and part of Messina. Maybe some of the people you saw in Palermo were from other parts of Italy.

    If you go to Syracuse and Ragusa, and parts of Trapani they do look more Greco-Roman, and some more "northern" influences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-47 View Post
    Being honest is a good trait.
    Many posters on here with 1000s of posts, wouldn't say what you just did.
    haha, yeah i'm not like that, i'm just glad and surprised that such forums exist in the first place.

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