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Thread: Haplogroup O from Mongol invasion ? from Turks ? or from Chinese ? in Central Asia, Middle east

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    Default Haplogroup O from Mongol invasion ? from Turks ? or from Chinese ? in Central Asia, Middle east

    Why is haplogroup O so widespread like haplogroup C? Ussually whenever there's C in Turks there's also haplogroup O aswell.

    Was O in Central Asia spread by Mongols, Turks, or Chinese ?
    Did it happen before Mongol invasion or after ? If it was from Mongol invasion was it part of Mongols, Turks or the Chinese soldiers under Mongol empire ?

    World map haplogroup O ( There's O1, O2, O3 )


    All the haplogroup O markers in Turks, Mongols are all haplogroup O3. Other places with haplogroup O outside of East/Southeast Asia have nothing to do with the Mongols, Turks nor Chinese because they are not O3

    Pacific islands have 10-30% of mostly haplogroup O1
    Melanesia have 10-30% of mostly haplogroup O1
    Northern Australia have 2-10% haplogroup O1,
    East India have 10-30% mostly haplogroup O2a are limited mostly to just tribals of India. The Indian Austro-Asiatic tribal people have substantial mongoloid DNA because their male ancestors were southeast Asians.


    As for haplogroup O3


    East Central Asian have 10-30% haplogroup O3
    West Central Asians have 2-10% haplogroup O3
    Middle east of Iran, Afghanistan have 2-10% haplogroup O3
    A small region between the are of Turkey, Syria, Iraq have 2-10% haplogroup O3
    In Siberia there's also 2-10% to 10-30% haplogroup O

    Turks, Mongols, Siberians haplogroup O3 ?????? I'm surprised how high haplogroup O is in the isolated eastern Siberia where it is 30-60%.


    SHOCKINGLY !!!!!

    In Mongol tribes
    32% of haplogroup O3 in Inner Mongolia but in Outer Mongolia also have 8-23% but in Khalka is 18% of O3




    In Central Asian tribes

    All Turks and Iranians Tajiks, Pamiri have haplogroup O in different frequencies

    For example In a sample of 54 Kazakhs and 119 Altaian Kazakh. The main paternal lineages of Kazakhs are: C (66.7% and 59.5%), O (9% and 26%), N (2% and 0%), J (4% and 0%), R (9% and 1%).[49]


    Kyrgyz 25% haplogroup O properly mostly O3


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    Any answer for this ?

    All those high percentages of O was it from Mongol/Turkic to begin with or was it from Chinese or Tibetans ???
    Given the presense of haplogroup O in Turkey and even as far as Kazan Tatars I would have to think it came from Mongols.
    Unless you're telling me there was Chinese soldiers that made it as far as Turkey, Kazan Tatarstan.

    Turkey 2% C, 0.5% O


    Kazan Tatars 5.7% C, 1.9% O.

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    Nobody can explain ???

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    No idea, but if the map is correct then it's Kurds who have O (The Y-DNA map of Turkey includes all ethnicities)

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    Turks were originally N and C carriers, later R1a as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Turks were originally N and C carriers, later R1a as well.
    You can never know. R1a was definetly adopted later, but it's very unclear for others.

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    A lot of it spreading in lands west is related to the Austro-Asiatic expansion (South Asia used to be Austro-Asiatic before it was Dravidian and then later partially Aryan). So the O in South Asia and regions neighboring South Asia is probably related to Austro-Asiatics. It may also have been spread by the Proto-Sino-Tibetans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    You can never know. R1a was definetly adopted later, but it's very unclear for others.
    The pazyryk Scythian was N1b, and N hasn't been found among any other Scythians, let alone Indo-Iranian groups, so it means that the pazyryk Scythian was paternally Turkic.

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    This is the result of very ancient migrations!

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    Its probably due to the Mongol expansion.
    When Genghis Khan spread towards the West Eurasia, he hired thousands of Chinese engineers, scholars, commanders, etc in order to help him conquering powerful kingdoms such as the Khwarazmian Empire.

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