Islamism in Turkey.

[Marmara]

About 80-90% of all islamists in Turkey are ethnically non-Turkish, starting with their hero Erdoğan the Georgian. They use Islamism as an escape ideology. They put emphasize on religion and "Ummah" as a counteract to nationalist principles of Turkey. They are mostly from intermediate Eastern regions such as Erzurum, Sivas, Malatya, Trabzon, Şanlıurfa... provinces that are ethnically mixed. These people invented a new fictional ethnicity called "Ottoman", which is originally name of a dynasty. They call themselves "Ottomanians". They have very low to almost none actual Turkish ancestry and look very distinct. People like these make up the majority of Turkish diaspora and fucking up the Turkish image, not only that they're braindamaged people who exploits West European welfare system, but keep fucking Turkey by intensively showing interest in Turkish politics. They are truly viruses infecting Turkey.

These people would gladly accept (and already do) any type of 3rd world Muslim immigrant in Turkey to increase their "Ottomanian" population and outpopulate ethnic Turks.

If you ask them what's their ethnicity, they would proudly answer "Muslim, Ottomanian..." etc, but if you keep asking what's their real ethnicity, they would quietly answer "Turkish" but would add "Ethnicity does not matter for a Muslim". A great deal of them have assimilated Armenian and Pontic Greek ancestry. I know an islamist "Turk" who opened up to me said he wasn't ethnically Turkish, though didn't tell his real ethnicity but i can guess Pontic Greek.

[Marmara]

Wrong section I opened up this thread with anger so please a mod move it Türkiye section.

[Sora]

True, so true... But there are ethnic Turks who are Islamist and anti-Atatürk, too. For example; My maternal grandfather and grandmother. My father is Islamist and anti-Atatürk also. I call ''educated ignorant'' about him( but not to his face)

[Böri]

Let us not forget that the first 4 Caliphs of Islam who were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali Ibn Talib were strictly ethnic Arabs but also from Meccan Quraish tribe. In addition, the word ethnicity (qavm) is mentioned like 380 times in Quran. Arabs incl. Isis doesn't recognize Ottoman Caliphs since those were Turcoman descent paternally and not from Quraish (Umayyads, Abbasids and later caliphs of Mamluk state were all from Quraish).


Most Islamists in Turkey are low class people. They take Islam as a form Marxism with spiritual flavour. Had they been living in Sixties, modern Islamists in Turkey would be hardcore socialists

[Marmara]

True, so true... But there are ethnic Turks who are Islamist and anti-Atatürk, too. For example; My maternal grandfather and grandmother. My father is Islamist and anti-Atatürk also. I call ''educated ignorant'' about him( but not to his face)

I also have İslamist relatives but they have mixed Arab ancestry. At the end i'm not a racist person, i don't particularly hate these people for being non-turkish but being problematic with disgusting habits.

[Marmara]

Let us not forget that the first 4 Caliphs of Islam who were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali Ibn Talib were strictly ethnic Arabs but also from Meccan Quraish tribe. In addition, the word ethnicity (qavm) is mentioned like 380 times in Quran. Arabs incl. Isis doesn't recognize Ottoman Caliphs since those were Turcoman descent paternally and not from Quraish (Umayyads, Abbasids and later caliphs of Mamluk state were all from Quraish).


Most Islamists in Turkey are low class people. They take Islam as a form Marxism with spiritual flavour. Had they been living in Sixties, modern Islamists in Turkey would be hardcore socialists

Those four caliphs have my respect. They were great people, nothing like modern Sandniggers.

Socialism is the second escape ideology, mostly from non-religious ethnicities such as Alevi Kurds or Balkanites.

[Böri]

Those four caliphs have my respect. They were great people, nothing like modern Sandniggers.

Sure, Arabs from early Islam era were not like modern Arabs who are mostly repulsive, backward in their image. Early Arabs were quite respected by other people too Byzantines, Sassanians, Visigoths, Khazars etc.

[Sora]

I also have İslamist relatives but they have mixed Arab ancestry. At the end i'm not a racist person, i don't particularly hate these people for being non-turkish but being problematic with disgusting habits.

Me too. But my maternal grandmother's father had Meskhetian Turk ancestry. And my maternal grandfather is Armenian-adulatory, but doesn't have any Armenian ancestry. But I think that if my grandfather has Armenian or Anatolian Greek origin and I'm worrying

[Marmara]

Me too. But my maternal grandmother's father had Meskhetian Turk ancestry. And my maternal grandfather is Armenian-adulatory, but doesn't have any Armenian ancestry. But I think that if my grandfather has Armenian or Anatolian Greek origin and I'm worrying

Don't worry about that. My maternal grandmother is half zaza half arab. I probably have even further mixed ancestry but didn't find anything on my ancestry.

All Turks are mixed to some extend, some are just aware of it. I'm hating more on ideology here.

[Ryujin]

Also some of Balkan immigrants, especially Bosniaks and Albanians are very Islamistic as opposed to other Balkan immigrants such as Pomak, West Thracian, Turks from Bulgaria and Greece etc.

For example this hardcore Islamist is probably a Bosniak