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Thread: Should Greek input be considered "native" to S. Italy when assessing extent of foreign input?

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    Can you post the Sarno study and where it shows that the Calabrese Griko share the less IBD with modern Greeks?

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    The Minoans were an earlier form of Mycanaean people
    They were a completely different civilization also, lol. Different language, religion, customs, ideals...

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    Only pelasgians should be considered native

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post

    They were a completely different civilization also, lol. Different language, religion, customs, ideals...

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    Lol have you read any of the papers on Minoan and Mycanaean DNA?

    They had common ancestry and their DNA was very similar with only minor differences.

    Of course Minoans were not exactly the same culturally with Mycanaeans since Minoans lived in Crete and the Islands.
    Logically they did alot of seafare and established very early trade and contact via the Mediteranean with the Levant and Egypt but genetically
    they were not related to them.

    The Mycanaeans populated the Mainland and only later moved to Crete and the Islands they were more warlike and militarily organised which
    is also logical.

    The main difference between Mycanaeans and Minoans is that Mycanaeans had some NE admixture from people in the Steppes 8%-10%.
    The Mycanaean script has been deciphered and shown to have been a Greek language.

    The Minoan language is still unkown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
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    Yes, I would read Sikeliotized posts on how the matriarchial Minoans were an earlier form of Mycenean people. By warlike you mean that they made scary faces in the battleground?

    There is a whole different culture in many accounts, as for the Mycenean language it has of course been deciphered as Greek and rather proto-Greek. If Minonas spoke the same language it would probably be also deciphered by now(Raine spam incoming). In any case, there has been a lot of intermingling with early Greek civilizations for the Mycenean kingdoms to form, most likely they were Steppe tsopanos in the beginning but no matter what they were there are big differences between them and Minoans even after Minoan trade and interaction to make them similar civilizations.

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