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    Default 60mn ‘potential Jews’ could be converted to promote Israel – govt report

    Some 60 million people worldwide have an affinity with Judaism or Israel, including plenty of groups and individuals who could be screened for potential conversion and immigration to Israel, a committee set up by the Diaspora Affairs Ministry has concluded.

    In what it calls an “unprecedented strategic opportunity,” the committee calls for mapping potential communities, providing learning materials about Judaism, the Jewish state, and the Hebrew language, and designing a special track for those interested in working, living, and perhaps even converting to Judaism to come to Israel, the Haaretz daily newspaper reported Wednesday.

    Orthodox rabbis immediately attacked the idea, saying that Judaism is not a proselytizing religion. Reform Jews said the government was more interested in expelling people not considered Jewish enough than in recruiting new ones — a reference to cases in which individuals have had their citizenship revoked for various reasons.

    he Diaspora Affairs Ministry said in a statement that the report had not yet been adopted and that the aim was not mass conversion but rather strengthening the relationship between Israel and non-Jewish communities abroad.

    One of the report’s recommendations is to review the potential of these overseas communities to serve as positive representatives of the Jewish state who can also help in the battle against anti-Semitism.

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    Among the millions of potential recruits, the report identifies descendants of Jews who are not eligible to immigrate to Israel without formal conversion — so-called Marranos descended from Spanish and Portuguese Jews who were forcibly converted to Christianity several centuries ago; descendants of so-called “Red Marranos” from Eastern Europe, who hid their Judaism from the Communist regime; communities that declare themselves to be Jewish but are not officially recognized, such the Falashmura of Ethiopia and the Bnei Menashe of India; groups in Africa and Asia claiming a more distant connection with Judaism; and other groups worldwide who feel ideologically and spiritually close to the Jewish people.



    The reports breaks these groups down into circles of proximity, with more than 14 million people in the closest group (Jews in Israel and overseas), followed by nine million who are entitled to immigrate under the Law of Return, five million who are the descendants of converts, and around 35 million people who are already known to have an affinity with the Jewish state.

    The Law of Return gives citizenship rights to people who have at least one Jewish grandparent or who are married to a Jew.

    In all, says the report, some 60 million people can be defined as “future potential,” among them people who are not yet aware of this.




    https://www.timesofisrael.com/60-mil...nistry-report/

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    It is well known that only in former portuguese colonies of Southern America there are 17,000,000 that are descendants of Sephardic Jews. Not mentioning the Spanish colonies and Iberia itself. The amount of Catholic Hispanic genetic cousins (from second-fifth cousins) only I have is insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    It is well known that only in former portuguese colonies of Southern America there are 17,000,000 that are descendants of Sephardic Jews. Not mentioning the Spanish colonies and Iberia itself. The amount of Catholic Hispanic genetic cousins (from second-fifth cousins) only I have is insane.
    Interesting.

    Could you show me your matches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Interesting.

    Could you show me your matches?
    Which do you want to see? Texas? Mexico? Puerto rico? Azores? lol I think I have around 50 hispanic matches if not more. some are second-third cousins which is insane meaning we should have a great great great parent in common.

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    how much they pay? I started a good thread even

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...usic-of-Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    It is well known that only in former portuguese colonies of Southern America there are 17,000,000 that are descendants of Sephardic Jews. Not mentioning the Spanish colonies and Iberia itself. The amount of Catholic Hispanic genetic cousins (from second-fifth cousins) only I have is insane.
    Do you have any matches from Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    It is well known that only in former portuguese colonies of Southern America there are 17,000,000 that are descendants of Sephardic Jews. Not mentioning the Spanish colonies and Iberia itself. The amount of Catholic Hispanic genetic cousins (from second-fifth cousins) only I have is insane.
    Can I have a source? I guess you mean anyone with a tiny amount of ancestry?

    Heres an old study on Iberia:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/w....18411385.html

    Spain and Portugal have a history of fervent Catholicism, but almost a third of the population now turns out to have a non-Christian genetic heritage. About 20 percent of the current population of the Iberian Peninsula has Sephardic Jewish ancestry, and 11 percent bear Moorish DNA signatures, a team of geneticists reports.

    The genetic signatures reflect the forced conversions to Christianity in the 14th and 15th centuries after Christian armies wrested Spain back from Muslim control.

    (maybe its outdated not sure and I still think dna studies arent fully accurate).

    Why would having 1% Jewish make someone a Jew? Cant they have both Euro Christian and non-Christian mixture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    Do you have any matches from Spain
    I haven't seen matches from Spain it self, only from portugal (Azores) , south america, central america, and U.S Hispanics.

    Edit: I do have matches from Spain lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    Can I have a source? I guess you mean anyone with a tiny amount of ancestry?

    Heres an old study on Iberia:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/w....18411385.html

    Spain and Portugal have a history of fervent Catholicism, but almost a third of the population now turns out to have a non-Christian genetic heritage. About 20 percent of the current population of the Iberian Peninsula has Sephardic Jewish ancestry, and 11 percent bear Moorish DNA signatures, a team of geneticists reports.

    The genetic signatures reflect the forced conversions to Christianity in the 14th and 15th centuries after Christian armies wrested Spain back from Muslim control.

    (maybe its outdated not sure and I still think dna studies arent fully accurate).
    I don't have the source of it because this information is takes from a history Israeli Podcast about the Alhambra decree and the life of conversos.

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    Just saying what I'm saying I looked again and saw some matches from Spain hahaha. Also many hispanics don't put their country in their description so it's impossible to know where they are from.
    I also have non-Jewish matches from eastern Europe (hungary, Russia) which is... interesting (I also have Ashkenazi matches from Eastern Europe but that's not surprising knowing many Sephardim joined to Ashkenazi communities, most likely a branch of my family did so too)
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