What explains Peloponnesian Greeks looking/being genetically more "western" like?

[catgeorge]

Exactly - These guys whitened up the Peloponnesians

Are you serious have you actually seen Venetians?







Not exactly Nordic are they

[catgeorge]

...and with that in mind these are people from Thessaly

[Tauromachos]

...and with that in mind these are people from Thessaly

They look like Italians from Abruzzo or SE Sicilians if you exclude a minority of exotic types from these Italian groups

[zoofoogr]

Venetians look extremely Slavic. The name itself is Slavic : Venedi.

[Tauromachos]

Venetians look extremely Slavic. The name itself is Slavic : Venedi.

I thought it comes from Veni Vidi Vici

[brennus dux gallorum]

First of all, the same things that apply for Peloponnese, apply for Sterea too

Anyone thinking that Peloponnesians were mixed with Venetians ignores Peloponnesian history itself, to start with.

Peloponnese was for 250 years under Frankish control, not venetian. venetians dominated the region as a whole for only 30 years in 17th century, and during the 250 Frankish years, Venetians ruled only particular (even though the most important) cities of the region

As for the admixture, there was a small admixture recorded, which created the class of "gasmouloi", who were later assimilated into Greek society, but they didn't have venetian roots (but Frankish) and were common only in plains and coastal areas, only in the western part of the region. Western admixture (atlantic+North Sea) is more common than Eastern (baltic+East Euro) in at least 60% of Greece

Anyway, to be honest these venetian girls could easily pass as an average Greek (and I don't mean only for peloponnese, i am not from there after all)

[Faklon]

The west-med component of Pelopes that only means that they share elevated Neolithic farmer ancestry is total propaganda. Peloponnesians are total slavs and sloots, ever heard of the promiscuity of Kalamata and Patras women? Ever seen Maniots squat?

True Atlantic type along Greece can only be found in Roumelia and specifically the mountains of Macedonia, behind every Slavovlach lies one small Napoleon Bonaparte.

[Sikeliot]

I checked on Sarno et al, and it seems to have to do with an increased "Sardinian" like component in Peloponnesians relative to northern Greeks, Sicilians, or Aegean islanders.

[Tauromachos]

I checked on Sarno et al, and it seems to have to do with an increased "Sardinian" like component in Peloponnesians relative to northern Greeks, Sicilians, or Aegean islanders.

Its obvious

They have Mycanaean ancestry

[Sikeliot]

Its obvious

They have Mycanaean ancestry

I think they have 60% Sardinian like ancestry vs closer to 50% in Crete and Sicily.