my trip to Northern Italy

[Cristiano viejo]

1. the myth that Northern Italians are light is completely at odds with reality. Almost everyone I saw had dark hair (dark brown or black), dark eyes and olive complexion.

Hallelujah...

[Lek]

Ydna: R1a

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[RN97]

Having read many of your comments, you are a typical Romanian self-hater who thinks that Romanians are similar to Northern Europeans and who seeks redemption in a forum because he is ashamed to be Romanian. You are one of the least credible users of this forum. And then it would be enough to go to Bucharest to make your dreams fall.

1. He's a idiot and I've never seen a Romanian agree with him or his views.
2. You're blind for not noticing that he's not really Romanian.

[catgeorge]

[RN97]

Aherne, I want you to know that you're a dark-haired, non-blue eyed little manlet as well as a nordicist.
Embarassing.

[catgeorge]

dont worry guys its the morning here and im just trolling.... happy good friday.

[justpassing]

I've just returned from a short cultural trip to Northern Italy (namely cities of Bologna and especially Ravena). Among many other things, me being me, I've taken a closer look at how natives look like (actually, the vast majority of people I saw were either natives or turists from other parts of Italy) comparing with how they are portrayed on this forum:

1. the myth that Northern Italians are light is completely at odds with reality. Almost everyone I saw had dark hair (dark brown or black), dark eyes and olive complexion. No different from Cretans, but significantly darker than continental Greeks! Pretty much the only light person I saw there were actually Romanian migrants
2. I was shocked how ugly local women were. Most looked bad even as teens, older ones were horrible. Short, with a crooked face, nasty nose. This is the polar opposite of Italian girls I've partied with in Lefkada or random ones I've spoke over the net (amazing). Based on latter experiences, I came with high expectations
3. Interesting how completely different locals are from ancient Romans. Not a single face even remotely resembled Roman busts. Is it because of pre-Italic element or to late Roman "diversity" (acculturation of foreigners from North Africa or Levant)? Hard to tell, but they mostly resembled the Greeks actually... I saw a tourist from other parts of Italy (also Italian speaker) whose face embodied the Roman type: unsurprisingly, he was light skinned and light eyed.

All these people are Italian too you know. You should visit more parts of that country before generalizing.


Here are random people interviewed from Bolzano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNJiipjEGkQ

[justpassing]

Having read many of your comments, you are a typical Romanian self-hater who thinks that Romanians are similar to Northern Europeans and who seeks redemption in a forum because he is ashamed to be Romanian. You are one of the least credible users of this forum. And then it would be enough to go to Bucharest to make your dreams fall.

Why in the hell would he be ashamed to be Romanian?

[QUICAS]

Italicroots approves this thread. Now just wait and they will make a lot of threads attacking your country.

[ovidiu]

I gotta be honest, in reality most actual Romanians don't have these kinds of sentiments (and I go back there for a couple of months every other year). I've noticed these "anthroforums" tend to often attract a very specific type of Romanians, namely those who are rather "Nordicist" oriented and exaggeratedly pro-Slavic, dismissing and downplaying other types and skewing the way the country is presented. Alot of people would find that a bit absurd. You don't seem to get many just regular people here, because those don't care about things like race and ethnicity much, and rather just live life. I was naive to think this forum was simply about a curiosity in anthropology and culture. Not surprising the types you get here.

Tbh I've never had the slightest problem or negative interaction with Italians and have always gotten along very admirably with them all my life. Many our of family friends were from there, and I know a fair amount of people who have ancestry from both countries. There are some communities of them in Romania. Also, believe it or not, there is a bit of overlap with parts of northern Italy anyway, particularly northeast like Friuli; I don't know about Ravena or whatnot. I think before 10 years ago, average relations between the people weren't that bad and usually decent (although uncommon during the Cold War due to obvious reasons). But the large wave of often boorish or poorly educated working class migrants and gypsies kind of messed that up and led to a bad impression to Western Europe in general, which reflects badly on the home countries. Maybe over time things will change.

It's pretty transparent and clear what's going on here... in response to immigration from Eastern Europe (in many cases consisting of Roma or partially Roma people), Italians have been pretty harsh toward Romanians on the Internet and make blanket statements like accusing them of all being gypsies (let's be real, the name doesn't help). In response to that, certain Romanians who are angered by that go in the other extreme direction to prove how much more northern than are and trash talk Italians as being Arabs or whatever, which is equally as ridiculous. This site should be for honest discussion of anthropolgical reality rather than biased and hateful attacks that serve no real purpose. Maybe I should go to that EUpedia place or whatever if it's better...

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Regarding the actual topic at and, I did notice some regional differences in my travels in Italy, but maybe not as huge as some like to think.