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Ergo, the Vasconic-Iberian area is not Spain.Originally Posted by Don
< La Catalogne peut se passer de l'univers entier, et ses voisins ne peuvent se passer d'elle. > Voltaire
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That is the recurrent element that confirms the rule. Where is the Language if we have all the other elements bold and confirmed by other celtic nations and ancient greek anthropologists?
There are elements in castilian's pronunciation that are linked to gaelic languages...
there is a context in Spain very different than other western nations, one with elements that affect dramatically the land and the people, like reconquista and high unity in the kindgomds of Spain, strong christianization... the language, as was probably the first victim and it seems the only one.
Although, in Spain there is a "purity" of blood from ancient times that preserve the pedigree of the original celtic people, something that does not happen in the other "celtic nations", in particular in britain, with many non-ancient western blood due to invasions from the east that stablished in there. Seems that in there the pressence of ancient dwellers and the celtic elements correlate.
Probably you could confirm.
Antes de subir al cadalso, Juan de Padilla se dirigió a su camarada Juan Bravo con unas célebres palabras: "Seńor Bravo: ayer era día de pelear como caballero...hoy es día de morir como cristiano". Ante esto, Juan Bravo pidió ser ejecutado antes que Padilla, "…para no ver la muerte de tan buen caballero". Horas más tarde, también fue ejecutado y decapitado el salmantino Francisco Maldonado.
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Spain historically was one of the most Celtic areas of Europe, but this is no longer the case. As we say in Wales, `Gwlad Heb Iaith, Gwlad Heb Cenedl` - a land without language, is a land without a nation.
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In the current Castilian language there are a few Celtic words, only a handful, but well, are a witness to our past.
"abedul, camino, cerveza, carro, camisa y braga" for example.
Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.
In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
— Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum
Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240
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Not only in Castilian. In all Western Romance languages except Aragonese.
Couldn't agree more with that.
< La Catalogne peut se passer de l'univers entier, et ses voisins ne peuvent se passer d'elle. > Voltaire
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I do not agree, the language not is so important, blood is important.
Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.
In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
— Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum
Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240
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Well, that is somewhat true, but a land without purity of blood, as we call it "limpieza de sangre", is a land without identity.
Anyway, we kept being the same ones, just rebuilt our selves modeling that latin to our taste and use.
So yes, you are right, we are no longer a Celtic Nation (despite we call our ancestors Celtíberos) to become Espańa. Spain is different, and we like it.
Antes de subir al cadalso, Juan de Padilla se dirigió a su camarada Juan Bravo con unas célebres palabras: "Seńor Bravo: ayer era día de pelear como caballero...hoy es día de morir como cristiano". Ante esto, Juan Bravo pidió ser ejecutado antes que Padilla, "…para no ver la muerte de tan buen caballero". Horas más tarde, también fue ejecutado y decapitado el salmantino Francisco Maldonado.
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But you're not Celtic, so how would you know?
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North Wales or the south/west of Ireland, definitely.
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I am from Cantabria, my ancestors were Celtic peoples, regardless of the language I speak now. Is a chinesse speiaking Celt a true Celt?
Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.
In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
— Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum
Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240
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